Episode 127: Decoding Health and Oils

Episode 127: Decoding Health: Oils, Nutrition, and Udo’s Wellness Wisdom

What if everything you thought you knew about oils and nutrition was missing a deeper truth?

In this powerful conversation, I’m joined by Udo Erasmus, Health and Human Nature Educator, founder of Udo’s Choice, and the brilliant mind behind Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill. Together, we explore how oils can either harm or heal depending on how they’re processed—and what that means for our skin, brain, energy, and long-term health.

Udo’s story begins with wartime trauma and a later experience of pesticide poisoning, which launched his passionate search for total health grounded in nature and human nature. From there, we discuss his creation of a carefully formulated oil blend and his take on what’s missing from the modern wellness conversation. He also walks us through his 10 steps to whole health, offering a vision of wellness that touches the emotional, environmental, physical, and spiritual.

⚠️ At the beginning of this episode, I offer a clarification about some claims presented. While many of Udo’s insights are deeply rooted in personal experience and scientific interest, not all statements reflect current research consensus. Please listen with curiosity and consult your healthcare provider when making changes to your wellness routine.

Explore more from Udo Erasmus:

Website: udoerasmus.com

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Facebook, LinkedIn, and YouTube: Udo Erasmus

Udo’s Choice Products: Available in the refrigerated section of health food stores and online via Amazon

If you’re curious about oils, digestion, brain health, or simply how to live more intentionally in your body—this episode is a beautiful place to begin.

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Transcript

Episode 127: Decoding Health: Oils, Nutrition, and Udo’s Wellness Wisdom

[00:00:00] @Autumn Carter: This is episode 127 

[00:00:02] Welcome to Wellness in Every Season, the podcast where we explore the rich tapestry of wellness in all of its forms. I'm your host Autumn Carter, a certified life coach turned wellness coach, as well as a certified parenting coach dedicated to empowering others to rediscover their identity in their current season of life.

[00:00:21] My goal is to help you thrive both as an individual and as a parent.

[00:00:25] Before we dive into today's episode, I wanna take a moment to offer a few gentle clarifications. This conversation is full of insight, passion, and years of personal experience, his personal experience.

[00:00:39] While many of the points that he raised around oils, essential fats and nutrition are grounded in wellness science, and thoughtful care to our bodies. I want to remind you as your wellness advocate that not every claim shared in this episode reflects current scientific consensus . Some of the [00:01:00] statistics and conclusions.

[00:01:01] Like the impact of oils on IQ or the assertion that 99% of people are Omega-3 deficient are either debated or not yet backed by comprehensive research and though concerns about processed oils and poor quality supplements are real, the degree of harm caused may not apply equally to all products or people.

[00:01:26] As always, I encourage you to stay curious and discerning. Use what resonates, explore reputable sources, and consult with your trusted healthcare professionals before making any significant changes. My goal is never to overwhelm, but to offer conversation, reflection, and inspiration that supports your wellness journey from a place of balance and love.

[00:01:50] Now, with that in mind. Let's keep learning together and let me introduce him to you.

[00:01:55] @Autumn Carter: Today I have with me another wellness junkie. This is Udo [00:02:00] Erasmus and listening to him, I can tell that he's been a globetrotter a little bit.

[00:02:07] He has had quite a journey to get here. He has dealt with pesticide poisoning back in the 1980s. And for all you listeners out there, that's around when I was born. And he has learned how to, manage it. 

[00:02:26] @ Udo Erasmus: Nullify it. 

[00:02:27] @Autumn Carter: Yeah. 

[00:02:28] @ Udo Erasmus: Erase it. There you go. 

[00:02:30] @Autumn Carter: Kill 

[00:02:30] @ Udo Erasmus: it.

[00:02:30] @Autumn Carter: Through wellness practices, through mindful living, through health, and when this came into my email. Asking me if I would like to have him on my podcast is an immediate yes, in a very giddy girlish way, because I almost went into dietetics, not everybody knows that I find food and food is medicine to be fascinating.

[00:02:47] And I decided I wanted to be more preventative, so I went into wellness, but. He has definitely gone through a journey with us. He works with human nature, we're going to be talking about that. And he has what he calls the 10 steps to whole health. I'm very curious to see how that correlates with my eight dimensions of wellness.[00:03:00] 

[00:03:00] And he has been a lifelong learner about wellness. Nature, food as medicine, and so much more. We're going to be talking about oils and fats, and I'm already nerding out, so I apologize ahead of time. Let's go ahead and get started. Let's talk about your pesticide poisoning. It sounds like that's really the beginning of your journey, unless we need to go back further.

[00:03:29] 

[00:03:29] @ Udo Erasmus: The beginning was I was born during the Second World War in Europe. And my parents came from Latvia and Estonia, I was born in Poland on the way through. And at the end of the war I was two and a half years old, and we were fleeing from the communists who were chasing us in tanks and trucks, down dirt roads in horse drawn hay wagons, mothers with young children, no military presence.

[00:03:54] And the Allies, which we like to think of as the good guys, They were using [00:04:00] us refugees as target practice, shooting at us from planes. And needless to say, for a two year old, that could be pretty intense. I remember never, feeling safe, and I spent a lot of my time not feeling safe. I don't feel safe. I don't feel safe, right? And not knowing what I could trust, because we got a different story every day, because in the chaos you had to deal with things, and all the rules changed overnight. To go to the bathroom, go in your pants that kind of stuff and, and I remember feeling hungry, and I remember not knowing what I could trust. And we made it out six years old. I'm listening to adults argue, and they're so intense. And it occurred to me, there must be a way that human beings can live in harmony.

[00:04:47] And I'm going to find out how. Six years old, that's my driver. And then I got into science because I wanted to understand how everything works. Because if you're insecure, but you know how things work, they become predictable. And so I was a born [00:05:00] science guy. I was always testing things, always trying to figure out stuff.

[00:05:04] And I got into science, then I got into biological sciences, because I find living things fascinating and nature fascinating. And I wanted to know it on every level, and it wasn't for a job, it was for appreciation. And then I got into psychology, and then I got into medicine for a year. Because I wanted to know what health is and they call it health care.

[00:05:23] And I found out that it's only about disease management. They don't even have a definition of health, other than you're healthy when you're not sick, which is completely backwards. So I left medicine, went back into biochemistry and genetics. Left university, got married, my marriage broke up, I wanted to kill something, I was really upset because it was supposed to be for life in my head it's supposed to be for life, and I took a job as a pesticide sprayer and got poisoned in 1980 because I sprayed them super carelessly.

[00:05:54] Even though I knew that the only reason we make pesticides is to kill living things, right? Either we poison [00:06:00] their nervous system or we poison their respiration their, oxygen metabolism. And, and then I went to the doctor and said, what you got for pesticide poisoning? She said nothing.

[00:06:09] Nice short conversation. And that's when the penny dropped for me. Oh. My health really is my responsibility. I had heard it before but I'm on my own here. And so then I went into the research journals and looked at everything to do with health and nutrition because your body is made out of food and something you don't necessarily learn in school when you study nutrition, but 98%.

[00:06:33] of the atoms in your body, according to some estimates, are removed and replaced every year. And what that means is that if your health goes down, all you need to do is raise your standards for food intake. And within one year, you can have rebuilt 98 percent of your body to a higher standard.

[00:06:52] That, by the way, is what healing is about. How you want to heal? Raise your standard. And then, life will take care of everything else. The only [00:07:00] place where you have responsibility is here, what you stuff into yourself. What you stuff into your mouth, and that needs to have all of the essential building blocks in optimal quantities in it.

[00:07:11] Because when they land in your body, life knows how to build a body of optimum health. So that's like the short version of it, right? And so I found out about the essential nutrients, there's 42 of them, 13 vitamins, nine essential amino acids, two essential fatty acids, omega 3 and omega 6.

[00:07:29] And they're defined very precisely. You can't make them from anything else in your body. You have to have them to live and be healthy. You have to bring them in from outside. That's the first part. The second part is if you don't bring enough in, your health will go down. You get deficiency symptoms.

[00:07:46] They're degenerative in nature. Just means your body's falling apart gradually. They get worse with time, the symptoms. And if you don't get in enough long enough, you die. That's the second part. The third part is if you're going [00:08:00] down because you're not getting enough, but you bring enough back in before you die, Because death, by definition, is not reversible, right?

[00:08:08] So you've got to do it before you die. Then all the problems that come from not getting enough are reversed, because life knows what to do, provided we take that responsibility here that I just talked about. Make sure they land in your body. Life knows how to build a body that works and I got stuck on oils because that was the most confusing area and it turns out that more health problems come from damaged oils than any other part of nutrition.

[00:08:33] More health benefits will come from making the oil change that your body needs from damaged oils or fried oils. to oils that are actually made with health in mind, protected from light, oxygen, and heat, because oils, omega 3, five times more sensitive than omega 6, a lot more sensitive than monounsaturated and saturated fats, are the most [00:09:00] sensitive of all of our essential nutrients.

[00:09:02] They need the most care and we actually give them the least and then I got into Oh my God I can't get healthy on damaged oils and I just we should make them with health in mind and I have farm background we tinker with stuff. I knew what the issues were. So we developed a very tight Production system from scratch doesn't come custom made.

[00:09:21] We had to get engineers to design the machinery So that the oils are not damaged by light by oxygen Or by heat from the time they're in the seed to the time they're through all the pressing and filtering and filling. Till they're in a brown glass bottle, in a box, in the fridge, in the factory, as well as in the store and in the home.

[00:09:45] And then you use those oils not for frying, you add them to foods after they come off any heat source. 

[00:09:51] @Autumn Carter: Is that what's behind you? 

[00:09:52] @ Udo Erasmus: Over here. 

[00:09:53] @Autumn Carter: Okay. Can you show us a close up? Show us that light bulb. 

[00:09:57] @ Udo Erasmus: Let's see. Give your 

[00:09:57] @Autumn Carter: [00:10:00] touch. 

[00:10:01] @ Udo Erasmus: Oh, boy. Here we go. 

[00:10:02] @Autumn Carter: Three, six, nine. It's called Udo's oil. 

[00:10:03] @ Udo Erasmus: Udo's oil. Omega 3 6 9 blend. So it's a blend of nine oils. And there's a reason for that. We started with flaxseed oil. I developed flaxseed oil in 1986 because I found out 99 percent of the population does not get enough omega 3 for optimum health.

[00:10:22] 99%. It's like everybody. And I thought, Oh, my God. And they're a nightmare to work with because they're five times more sensitive than the other oils. If I said, okay, if we could bring back the omega 3s that are too low in almost everybody's diet, oh my god, we could help almost everybody. And because they're essential, there have to be some problems that come from not getting enough.

[00:10:43] I don't know what those problems are, because the research hadn't been done, but I understood what essential means. And so we started making flax oil, richest source of omega 3 that's available to us, and started seeing results almost immediately. Skin became nice, energy levels went up, people recovered quicker, [00:11:00] people slept better.

[00:11:00] But there's a problem with flaxseed oil, and that is that it has a lot of omega 3, not enough omega 6. We mostly get too much omega 6, but not enough omega 3. Flax oil is the only oil that can actually make you omega 6 deficient. All the other oils can make you omega 3 deficient.

[00:11:18] And I became omega 6 deficient on flax oil, because they compete in the body, omega 3 and 6. They use the same enzyme system to get converted into what we call derivatives. When you get enough omega 3 and omega 6 plant based, your body can make EPA and DHE that you find in fish oils.

[00:11:38] Your body can make that, but only if the ratio is right, because if you get a ton of omega 6 and very little omega 3, then the sixes crowd out the threes, because they're using the same system to be converted into all kinds of hormone like regulating molecules. They play roles in every cell in your body, every moment of every [00:12:00] day, 24 7, lifelong.

[00:12:01] Super important. And only those two essential ones that make these hormones. 

[00:12:06] @Autumn Carter: Okay together in the bottle. And for consumption? 

[00:12:09] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, the issue is the ratio has to be right. If you have ten times more omega 6 than omega 3, then the omega 3 is going to be crowded out from the conversion system.

[00:12:19] Speaker 4: Gotcha. 

[00:12:20] @ Udo Erasmus: Or if you had four times more omega 3 than omega 6, like in flax oil, then the omega 6s get crowded out from the conversion system. So I used flax oil as my only source of fat because I wanted to see where the ratio was because I knew that they both use the same system. And within a few months, I had dry eyes.

[00:12:40] Skip heartbeats, arthritis like pain in my finger joints, and thin papery skin. Classic omega 6 deficiency symptoms. And so I fixed them by eating sunflower seeds, that are very rich in omega 6, but have no omega 3 in them, so bring the balance back. And I said, you know what? I'm trying to get people healthy.

[00:12:56] I don't want to do that with an oil that can actually hurt them. [00:13:00] So then we said, let's make a blend. Let's get the ratio right. It's all organic. It's in glass. There's no pesticides in it. It's in a box. So there no light can get through the glass and damage the oil. So we did everything right.

[00:13:14] A total labor of love with really high standards. And then you can use that forever and you'll never become deficient in either omega 6 or omega 3. So that's what we did. 

[00:13:25] @Autumn Carter: Tell me if I'm wrong, is there a correlation?

[00:13:27] Because when you started talking about it, I'm like I've seen older people have those symptoms. Is that? Old age? Or is that a deficiency? Yeah, what symptoms? 

[00:13:37] @ Udo Erasmus: With the papery 

[00:13:38] @Autumn Carter: skin, the dry eyes, 

[00:13:40] @ Udo Erasmus: okay, dry skin skipped heartbeats. Yeah, that can come from omega 6 deficiency, but there are other reasons you can get it, because your heartbeat does not just depend on oils, it depends on magnesium too, and it depends on calcium too, and it depends on proteins too, and it depends on minerals and vitamins too.

[00:13:59] 

[00:13:59] @Autumn Carter: [00:14:00] Weight, how much it's having to, how hard it's having to work. So there's a lot of deep fat. Yeah, 

[00:14:05] @ Udo Erasmus: so there, yeah, so there are a lot of issues. What I would say is if your skin is dry, and that's usually, that's more likely to happen in winter than in summer, and it's more likely to be noticeable in dry weather than in humid weather.

[00:14:18] But if your skin is dry, And you need gunk on your skin. You're not getting enough of the right kind of oils because together Omega three and six form a barrier in the skin against the loss of moisture, and you end up with soft, smooth, velvety skin, but skin gets them last and loses them first because.

[00:14:37] You can live with dry skin, but your heart, if your heart dried out, that wouldn't work. If your liver dried out, if your brain dried out, that wouldn't work. So they get priority on the oils. And when your skin is soft and velvety, you know that you've optimized your intake. That's a ballpark, ballpark a tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight per day.

[00:14:57] And we say mixed in food spread out over the course of [00:15:00] the day. In winter, you need more than in summer. Because in winter, you burn quite a bit more of it for heat. And the omega 3s actually keep you warm in winter. If you're cold sensitive, You need omega threes 

[00:15:12] @Autumn Carter: and to know, and that actually brings the question.

[00:15:15] I already know the answer, but I'm going to ask it for everybody else. So this is something, can you heat, let me ask this in a stupid way. So it makes more sense 

[00:15:24] @ Udo Erasmus: in a stupid way to make more sense. 

[00:15:26] @Autumn Carter: In a, non educated way, because I already know the answer. 

[00:15:31] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, that's good. 

[00:15:32] @Autumn Carter: Are you cooking with this oil? 

[00:15:34] @ Udo Erasmus: The emphasis in the sentence is on the can. Of course you can, but should you? 

[00:15:40] @Autumn Carter: You I tried. 

[00:15:42] @ Udo Erasmus: No, that's good. It helps, right? You can, but you shouldn't. But you can put it in hot soup after it comes off the heat. And you can put it on steamed vegetables.

[00:15:53] And you can put it in pasta sauce, which is hot, right? But you put it in last, of course, it goes on anything. It's [00:16:00] compatible with fruit, vegetables starch protein, right? But you put it in after it comes off the heat source. You do not ever, want to take these really precious oils that are made with incredible care so that they take care of you and then dump them in a frying pan and turn them into smoke.

[00:16:17] Frying is the single worst thing we've ever done to our food. If health is the goal, because when you fry oils, you damage them by the simultaneous effects of light, oxygen and heat all at the same time. Now, we should be keeping the oils cold, not frying them. We know that for ice cream, we keep ice cream cold and we ship steaks cold.

[00:16:42] But for some reason, the industry has never wanted to do that with oils. When we ship the oil more than two weeks in transit. It's shipped refrigerated, like when it goes to Europe and Asia and Australia, it's shipped refrigerated. It's that Sensitive. these are the most sensitive [00:17:00] of all of our essential nutrients.

[00:17:01] They need the most care. We need to give them that care if we want them to keep us healthy. You hear in a lot of people these days are saying, Don't use seed oils. I'm sure you've heard that. Have you heard that? And don't use omega 6s. That's what they say. Cause they're gonna make you sick.

[00:17:19] You know what, where the problem comes from? 

[00:17:21] @Autumn Carter: I figured 

[00:17:21] @ Udo Erasmus: it, I figured out 45 years ago, all the people who say that, not a single one of those people has ever talked to me. And I'm not hiding when it comes to oils. They have never talked to me. They just made it up in their head and it goes like this.

[00:17:34] I read a study that said omega 6 is an essential nutrient. I gave you that definition before, right? Can't make it, gotta have it, gotta get it from outside. If you don't get enough long enough, you die. If you bring it back enough before you die, everything that comes from not getting enough is reversed.

[00:17:50] That's what essential means. And they've identified specific reactions in a body that require that nutrient, without which that reaction cannot take place. That's the definition, 

[00:17:59] Speaker 3: next [00:18:00] study I got says Omega 6 

[00:18:01] @ Udo Erasmus: gives you cancer and kills you. And I'm going, huh, what the hell is going on here, right?

[00:18:07] Because you can't have it both way. You can't say life made it essential for me, or God made it essential for me to take the oil, so it could kill me with cancer, right? So my conclusion was they can't both be right. And to understand what's going on, I must be missing something.

[00:18:24] I need to look deeper. When I look deeper, I got into how are oils made by industry. They want a shelf life. They don't care about the health issues and they weren't known when the industry started either. They wanted a long shelf life. Cause then you can make the oil wherever you are.

[00:18:39] And sell it wherever I am, or I could sell it in, yeah, you get a big market, right? 

[00:18:45] Speaker 4: Yeah. 

[00:18:45] @ Udo Erasmus: So you could make the oil wherever you and I are, could sell it in Johannesburg and you could sell it in Sydney, Australia, and you could sell it in Berlin and you could sell it in Moscow and you could sell it in Beijing and you could sell it in [00:19:00] Buenos Aires and you could sell it in Chicago.

[00:19:02] Alright, so you literally have a world market if you can get a long shelf life. So to get the long shelf life, they figured it out. You take this very sensitive oil, you treat it with a very corrosive base called sodium hydroxide, then you treat it with a very corrosive acid called phosphoric acid, then you bleach it.

[00:19:18] The colors out of it, because the colors absorb light and the light can then damage the oil molecules. So you've got to bleach the oil with bleaching clays. Now it goes rancid and smells bad. So you have to deodorize it, or de stinkerize it. And to do that, you have to heat the oil to a Frying temperature for half an hour.

[00:19:39] In other words, all of those colorless, odorless, tasteless oils that you get in plastic bottles on the shelf in every store, pretty much, that sells food. Those oils have been fried for 30 minutes to get rid of the bad taste. And in that process, A half to 1 percent of the molecules are damaged. They change from something that exists in [00:20:00] nature that is good for health, they're twisted, or they're broken, or they're cyclized, or they're linked together in different ways.

[00:20:08] Or they're cross linked, and so you're changing the molecules into something that never existed in nature. That therefore life never made a breakdown program for. So half to one percent. So now I have a question. So I called them, and I said, why do you do this when it does damage to the oil? And the guy they put on the line said we do it because one of the reasons we can get rid of half of the pesticides in the oil.

[00:20:32] At that point, I didn't even know they were pesticides and oils, right? Because I was, this is news to me. I'm just learning, right? So I said to him why don't you start with organically grown seeds? Because then you don't have a pesticide problem, and then you don't have to fry the oil before it goes in the bottle.

[00:20:49] Long silence at the other end of the phone. I don't know, maybe it was three seconds, but it seemed three hours. It was all long, silence, and I didn't say anything, I was just waiting for his answer. And when he [00:21:00] got back to me, he was like agitated, oh, he was ticked off. He said, 

[00:21:04] Speaker 3: I don't know what your problem is.

[00:21:05] The oil is only 1 percent damaged. It's 99 percent good. And if you got 99 percent on an exam, you'd be damn happy, wouldn't you? 

[00:21:14] @ Udo Erasmus: No, I'm okay. Maybe I'm overreacting. It's only 1%. So I have a fallback. When in doubt, you know the saying? 

[00:21:21] @Autumn Carter: Science. 

[00:21:22] @ Udo Erasmus: When in doubt, do the math. 

[00:21:24] @Autumn Carter: Find it out? 

[00:21:25] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, do the math.

[00:21:26] That's just like, when in doubt, do the math. It's a saying in science. Because numbers don't lie. It's quantitative, so you know what you got. So I said, okay, I have a tablespoon of an oil, and it's 1 percent damaged. How many damaged oil molecules am I going to find in that tablespoon of 1 percent damaged oil?

[00:21:45] And I want you to guess, because you'll see why that's important. Because you don't have a basis for making the guess. 

[00:21:50] @Autumn Carter: You're on here, it's almost all of it. 

[00:21:53] @ Udo Erasmus: No, it's only 1%. So I'm asking for a number. 

[00:21:55] @Autumn Carter: I don't know. 

[00:21:56] @ Udo Erasmus: A, and there's a way to figure that out, but most people, [00:22:00] including all of your listeners.

[00:22:00] 

[00:22:00] @Autumn Carter: That math. 

[00:22:01] @ Udo Erasmus: You probably may not have that background either because if you don't know how to do the math, there's a formula for it. Then it doesn't matter how smart you are. If you didn't learn that formula, and most people didn't because they never learned that particular part of the science.

[00:22:15] But make a guess anyway. A tablespoon of oil, how many damaged molecules in that oil if it's 1 percent damaged?

[00:22:23] @Autumn Carter: Would I need to know how many molecules were in the oil to begin With? 

[00:22:27] @ Udo Erasmus: that's the way you would figure out an accurate answer. Yes, but you don't know that's why you have to guess right? 

[00:22:33] @Autumn Carter: Okay, 

[00:22:33] @ Udo Erasmus: so you said a thousand? Okay, see because the issue is we don't know how big molecules are and we don't know how many molecules are in a tablespoon Of oil but with certain amount, and when you know what the molecular weights of atoms are then you figure out what is the molecular weight of a molecule and Then you can figure out And that they actually, it's called Avogadro's number and it's, it says that the, weight in grams [00:23:00] of a molecule has a very specific number of molecules in it, and it's called Avogadro's number.

[00:23:06] So you said a thousand. You don't know that. And most of your listeners and, viewers don't know that. So you said a thousand s, three zeros, right? So would you like to know the actual number 

[00:23:18] Speaker 4: Of course. 

[00:23:19] @ Udo Erasmus: It's a 6 followed by 19 zeros. 

[00:23:24] @Autumn Carter: Wow. 

[00:23:25] @ Udo Erasmus: So you said 1, 000 and the actual number of damaged molecules in a tablespoon of 1 percent damaged Oil is 60 quintillion damage molecules.

[00:23:38] @Autumn Carter: I've never heard of that number before. 

[00:23:40] @ Udo Erasmus: No. And, how it is a go, it goes a thousand million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion. So we're talking 60 quintillion molecules. 19 zeroes. 

[00:23:50] @Autumn Carter: Quadrillion, but not. 

[00:23:52] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, so your estimate and the estimate of most of the people who would listen or watch this 

[00:23:58] @Autumn Carter: would be in that 

[00:23:59] @ Udo Erasmus: I have never [00:24:00] had anybody who didn't know that math get any closer than a billion times too low in their estimate. The reason why I'm saying that, so I have another story, right? Okay you're, going to fly home for the holidays. And you're at the airport, and you got your boarding pass, and you're about ready to board, and there's a tap on your shoulders, and you turn around, and there's a person there that you know can only tell the truth.

[00:24:25] Mr. Truth Teller, right? And he said, oh, by the way, did you know that your chance of crashing and dying on your flight home was 60 quadrillion times higher than you thought it was, would you get on the airplane? I was in, Ireland at one point when I asked that question. I said, I would canoe back to Canada.

[00:24:46] And here's the thing, why I say that I'm not trying to scaremonger, but I do want to let you understand your estimate of what you're doing to yourself when every day you take one or two or three or four [00:25:00] tablespoons of a commercial oil. That is 1 percent damaged, that has some pesticides in it, that has some plastic leached in it because it's in plastic bottles and oil swell plastic and plastic leaches into oil quicker than water.

[00:25:13] And that you maybe then fry, which will increase that number by another three to six times. And you do that every day for 30 years, in which case you'd have to multiply that number by 11, 000, which is about how many days there are in 30 years. And when you know that, you're giving every one of your 60 trillion cells, more than a million damaged unnatural molecules that never existed in nature, for many of which your life never made a breakdown program.

[00:25:47] Do you think that could possibly not cause some harm to your body? 

[00:25:52] @Autumn Carter: And how do we know that it actually is 1%? It might actually be worse. 

[00:25:57] @ Udo Erasmus: It depends on what's in the oil. Yes. Because if you more [00:26:00] omega threes in the oil, then that number's gonna be even higher. If you are gonna fry it, then the number is gonna triple to six times.

[00:26:08] In that 60 quintillion molecules, there's more than a million damaged molecules for every one of your body's 60 trillion cells. And they're going to end up in your body and wherever they go, they're going to interfere with what is supposed to be going on in that space.

[00:26:22] Because there's supposed to be an intact, natural, essential molecule in that space. And you've now taken, that's gone, and now have an unnatural molecule that shouldn't be there. That creates toxicity, and interferes with biochemical reactions. Disease, physical disease, always begins, if it has a physical origin, at the level of interactions between molecules.

[00:26:50] Electrons never get sick, atoms never get sick, molecules never get sick. It's at the level of interactions between molecules where disease begins. [00:27:00] If you got the right molecules, no disease. If you got the wrong molecules interacting, you get symptoms of disease because of those abnormal interactions between molecules, right?

[00:27:11] Now, you can also make you sick by how you think. But I'm talking about physical causes of physical illness always happen at the level of molecules, right? And then if you pump a ton of these damaged molecules into your body every day, they have to cause interactions between molecules that eventually end up in disease.

[00:27:31] @Autumn Carter: And we're just talking about oil. We're not talking about sugar. 

[00:27:34] @ Udo Erasmus: No, but what we are doing is we're talking about. 

[00:27:36] @Autumn Carter: Is processed food in oil. 

[00:27:37] @ Udo Erasmus: Food. 

[00:27:38] @Autumn Carter: Everything else. 

[00:27:39] @ Udo Erasmus: Oil is the worst of the bunch.

[00:27:41] Sugar is second. 

[00:27:41] @Autumn Carter: Okay. 

[00:27:42] @ Udo Erasmus: Oil is the dumbest thing we've ever done to our food supply. If health is our goal, and I say to people, you got a fry pan at home, everybody does right? Pull it out, turn it upside down. Hit yourself up the high side of the head with it associated with pain, and throw that stupid thing out.

[00:27:57] Go back to boiling in water, cooking in water. [00:28:00] Or if you're really smart, get really clean food and eat it raw. 'cause nature's mandate for any creature that eats fresh, whole, raw, organic, local. And for humans and monkeys, probably mostly plant based. 

[00:28:14] @Autumn Carter: And in season, 

[00:28:16] @ Udo Erasmus: except you can take seeds and nuts and you can bury them or store them over winter. 

[00:28:21] @Autumn Carter: I heard that apples, by the time we get them, they can be up to a year old. 

[00:28:26] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, because they put them in warehouses. I grew up in fruit farming country. And they have packing houses, that's what they call them, and they put them in big bins and they ship them out over the whole course of the year.

[00:28:40] So you could be getting last year's apples just before this year's apples become pickable, right? So whoever told you that is accurate. They could be fresher, but they could be as old as a year Old. will you lose nutrient value in that apple? Yeah, even if it doesn't rot.

[00:28:58] You will lose some nutrient [00:29:00] value. There's oranges that shipped from Florida to Canada that takes about two weeks. And some of those oranges have zero vitamin C in them. And oranges are famous as a source of vitamin C, right? They have it in when they're growing on the tree. But then you pick them off and there's no more vitamin C produced, right?

[00:29:18] And then they bounce around in a truck, and that's stressful for oranges, just like it would be for us, right? And in that process, more nutrients get used up, and then what you get in the end then you boil them, or you fry them, or whatever else you do to 

[00:29:34] @Autumn Carter: You don't keep the fiber. 

[00:29:35] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah yep, And in fact, when you juice, vegetables, there is four times more nutrients in the pulp than in the juice, right? So they say, and fiber, the second worst thing is digestion. You got to replace the enzyme.

[00:29:48] If you cook foods, you got to replace the enzymes you destroyed, the probiotics you destroyed. You got to make sure you get lots of fiber. Fiber is antioxidant and anti inflammatory and feeds the microbiome. And so super [00:30:00] important to eat more vegetables. Even if you're a meat eater, even if you're not going to quit completely, emphasize the plants.

[00:30:08] That steak you ate is made out of grass and the milk you drink is made out of grass and the cheese you eat is made out of grass. So there apparently are enough nutrients in grass to make these very high value foods. Maybe you should just eat the grass, but not quite because cows, digestion is set up a little different than ours.

[00:30:30] But anyway, so the oil story. 

[00:30:33] @Autumn Carter: And it makes sense, because if we look at oils, do come in dark jars. 

[00:30:37] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, some. 

[00:30:38] @Autumn Carter: The good oils. Yeah. The ones that are higher quality. So that makes sense. And I have seen certain oils more in the health food stores that are stored in the refrigerated section.

[00:30:50] 

[00:30:50] @ Udo Erasmus: Those are in plastic, but they should be in glass. 

[00:30:52] @Autumn Carter: And what we're, so you said that flax seeds, which we do, we're a smoothie family. So it's really funny when my kids are [00:31:00] saying, I don't eat that vegetable. I was like, actually you drink it whatever Kid. 

[00:31:04] We do flax seeds. We do chia seeds. We snack on pumpkin seeds. 

[00:31:10] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah. 

[00:31:10] @Autumn Carter: What is the other one? 

[00:31:12] @ Udo Erasmus: One for what? 

[00:31:14] @Autumn Carter: So in your oil you have three essential oils. 

[00:31:18] @ Udo Erasmus: Flax for omega 3s. 

[00:31:19] @Autumn Carter: Huh. 

[00:31:21] @ Udo Erasmus: sunflower and sesame for omega 6. 

[00:31:23] @Autumn Carter: Oh, sunflower, not pumpkin. 

[00:31:24] @ Udo Erasmus: Oh, yeah. But pumpkin's good, is a good source of omega 6 as well. And then there is rice germ and oat germ. That's for minor ingredients. And then there's evening primrose oil. That's for the phyto, the polyphenols in it. But it also has GLA, which is an omega 6 derivative. And then there's coconut oil and lecithin soybean lecithin, GMO free that we have to get in from Europe and vitamin E.

[00:31:53] I think I got them all. Eight. 

[00:31:54] @Autumn Carter: Wow. That's a lot in there. 

[00:31:56] @ Udo Erasmus: Nine ingredients. And the whole idea was because I [00:32:00] became a six deficient, let's get the omega three and six balance, right? Let's get people off the damaged omega 6 oils. So we have omega 6s made with health in mind along with omega 3s made with health in mind.

[00:32:13] We emphasize the omega 3s. It's a 2 to 1 ratio. And we do that because that's where we get the best results. Because I could do anything I wanted. I got to put it together, right? So we got the best results when omega 3s were higher. Because omega 3s are the highest energy molecule in nutrition.

[00:32:30] And did some studies with athletes, if we gave them a tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight per day. Mixed in food spread out over the course of the day of Udo's oil and had them do their sport to exhaustion. They literally in 30 days of taking a tablespoon per 50 of the oil, increased their performance to exhaustion in their sport by 40 to 60 percent.

[00:32:58] @Autumn Carter: Wow, that's a big deal. 

[00:32:59] @ Udo Erasmus: [00:33:00] Major. There's nothing you can do in practice that gets you that kind of results. But that's how powerful the omega 3s are and most athletes don't pay attention to them, still don't, when you get the omega 3s. And then what happens is they have more stamina so they can go longer before they're tired.

[00:33:15] They recover from fatigue quicker because the omega 3s help bring oxygen into the body and improve oxidation rate and that improves recovery time. And the recovery is in about half the time.

[00:33:29] So that's pretty substantial. And then when they get injured, their injuries heal in a third to a half the time. And their skin becomes nice. They sleep better. They recover better. We had bodybuilders who went back to doing workouts they had done in their 30s. While they were in their 50s, they went back to workouts they had done in their 30s.

[00:33:47] @Autumn Carter: I'm sure moms are over here wait, I'll sleep better? 

[00:33:51] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah. Oh yeah. And not only that it's super important for pregnancy because the brain, humans have the biggest brain other [00:34:00] than dolphins and whales, right? Humans have the biggest brain on the planet. The brain is very rich in omega 3 and omega 6 derivatives, both in about a one to one ratio.

[00:34:10] So when a woman gets pregnant, she's got to maintain her brain. And she's got to build a 

[00:34:15] Speaker 4: whole 

[00:34:15] @ Udo Erasmus: new brain in her womb. If she doesn't have enough essential fatty acids, and 99 percent of them don't get enough omega 3s, the kid takes them out of her brain. And the reason for that is that nature says mom's the past, kid's the future.

[00:34:32] If we have to, we will sacrifice the past to save the future. 

[00:34:36] @Autumn Carter: And moms continue doing that after, 

[00:34:38] @ Udo Erasmus: yeah. the kid takes them from the mother's brain. The mother becomes depleted. Each child depletes their mother further. This is all research. Each child gets less than the previous child.

[00:34:49] And that's why, on average, if you measured the IQ of all of the oldest children in North America, they would have the highest IQ. And if you measured the [00:35:00] IQ of all the youngest children, they would have the lowest IQ. Now, it's not 100 percent that way, because there are other genetic factors. But if you do the total stats, consistent, because each child gets less than the previous child, and they're important for brain development, brain function, and intelligence.

[00:35:17] And in fact, there's research that shows that when you increase omega 3s, and they're not damaged, In your diet, you can increase IQ by three to nine points. And the research on pregnancy the researchers, point out that women get two to 15 times more often than men. Depression, chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, collagen, inflammatory, and autoimmune diseases.

[00:35:46] They say it's the depletion of essential fats during pregnancy that sets them up for these conditions in a way that men are never set up because they never get pregnant. Their suggestion is women [00:36:00] need to make sure they get a reliable source of both essential fatty acids, and I'll add to it, in the right ratio, both made with health in mind, not damaged.

[00:36:09] Not plasticized, not fried and not with pesticides in them, both for their own health and for the health of their children. 

[00:36:17] @Autumn Carter: So I have it in my prenatal. Talk to that, the women who are saying that, that are listening to and saying it's in my prenatal, I'm fine. 

[00:36:25] @ Udo Erasmus: What's in your prenatal?

[00:36:26] @Autumn Carter: My DHA, what else is in there? The oils. 

[00:36:30] @ Udo Erasmus: So it's fish oil. 

[00:36:31] @Autumn Carter: Every prenatal says that, yes. 

[00:36:33] @ Udo Erasmus: Fish oil, EPA, and DHA. Okay. Thank You. the fish oil industry is lying to you and they're doing it because if they said your body can the plant omega 3 alpha linoleic acid, into fish oil omega 3, then a lot of people would say, why would I eat stinky fish oil?

[00:36:51] when I can get it from flax. And what turns out to be the truth that they don't tell you is, omega 3 and 6 are converted by the same enzyme [00:37:00] system in all our cells. You get too much of one, it crowds the other. You get too much of the other, it crowds the one, right?

[00:37:05] Nobody complains about inability to convert omega 6. Why not? Because we increased our intake. Double, triple, quadruple, maybe even ten times our intake of omega 6 over the past 150 years. And we've reduced our omega 3 intake to one sixth of what people got in 1850. Okay, so we've messed up the ratio. And the issue is not that the body can't convert.

[00:37:28] The issue is we're not getting enough. Or we're not getting the ratio right in order for both of them to get converted into what they need to be converted in that has super important functions in the body. And the fish oils are five times more sensitive to damage than the plant omega 3s, which is why fish oils give you those nasty burps.

[00:37:50] And which is why if you buy it in a bottle and you want to take it on a within days after you've opened the bottle, even when it's in the fridge, you can [00:38:00] smell the rancidity. That's how sensitive they are. Plus, the fish oils are now the dirtiest meat on the planet.

[00:38:06] The ocean has been our sewer for the last 200 years. Everything that goes downhill ends up in the ocean. In the ocean, if it's oil soluble, it works its way and concentrates up the food chain. And our fish oils have PCBs, dioxins, pesticides, and other gunk in it. To bring that down, that first surfaced probably 15 years ago.

[00:38:29] And then they were getting 1300 parts per billion of PCBs and dioxins in oils. And they're super, super toxic. birth defects, cancer, inflammation, all kinds of problems. And the researchers say there are no safe levels of these things. The government says you gotta be reasonable.

[00:38:47] They're in there, so let's set a limit. So they said, okay you gotta bring it down from 1300 to 90. In order to do that, you have to cook the oil. You have to evaporate them off. That does more damage to the oil. So now the fish [00:39:00] oils there are somewhere between three hundred and four hundred thousand times more processing damaged molecules than there are PCBs and dioxins in the oil.

[00:39:11] And those processing damaged molecules don't help you. And now the research, when you look at the review studies and you're not pushing fish oil you say all the things that have been said about fish oil, about how good they are, none of them are true anymore. Used to be true 20 years ago, 30 years ago.

[00:39:31] Now they've done so much processing, they've neutralized their benefits. But the fish oil industry will not tell you that. And the people who sell you those, products that contain them will not tell you that, but it's a huge issue. So the point is that you're paying attention to oils during pregnancy.

[00:39:48] That's good. But get an oil that is made with health in mind. And if it's a plant based oil made with health in mind, like what we do, your body will make the conversion and you women make the [00:40:00] conversion far more easily than men do. Women do EPA men also EPA to five to ten percent women do DHA from alpha linoleic acid five to ten percent men less than one percent, but men don't need to because they never get pregnant.

[00:40:15] They don't need as much oil also means women are smarter than men and, smart men know that. And really smart men acknowledge it. But it's true. It's true. And women process mentally better than men do. I always have and part of it is because men are bigger and they can be brutish about it.

[00:40:33] And women have to negotiate because they're smaller, right? The fact that women, convert the essential fatty acids, the omega 3 particularly. into the brain omega 3s is one of the reasons why women on average Will be smarter than men and then you would say smarter in some ways because they're not necessarily just as good with hammers and tongs, although they can learn that too, [00:41:00] but smarter in terms of processing and correlating and synthesizing and interpreting women, are very, smart in that and all the things you have to do when you have kids and you got to deal with all the details of child rearing lots of details.

[00:41:17] Women are perfectly made for that. 

[00:41:20] @Autumn Carter: I was just 

[00:41:21] @ Udo Erasmus: thinking task making. 

[00:41:22] @Autumn Carter: Yeah. Multitasking. 

[00:41:22] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, very, it's very Cool. what else? 

[00:41:26] @Autumn Carter: We missed talking about the 10 steps to whole health. 

[00:41:29] @ Udo Erasmus: Oh yeah, because this is oils is a whole topic. Health, total health is a whole other topic.

[00:41:37] The oils also help with bone strength. They also, you build muscle faster, you hang on to them longer. They're good for vision. Some people get the hair color back. Obviously I didn't, but I'm 82.

[00:41:50] So that's my Excuse. and they make your hair and nails grow better. In fact, we wanted to sell the oil in. Hair salons [00:42:00] because if they give their clients the oil, they have to come back 25 percent earlier for the next haircut because the hair grows faster and they don't get the split ends and they don't get the nail splits and all of that.

[00:42:12] So there's a lot of things that happen, elevate mood and lift depression even. So there's a lot of good things that happen from the Omega threes that are the most often deficient. essential nutrient in our time. That's a pretty good ending for that story. Okay. Talking about total health.

[00:42:30] I got into digestion because the deal is what's the next thing? What's the next most least well addressed thing? Digestion. Cause everyone's got something either you're burping or got gas or you got bloating or your stomach hurts or so there's lots of things because it's a super hardworking organ.

[00:42:48] You're taking foreign material that should never be in your body. And you're putting it inside a space, outside your body, inside your body, right? Because the inside of your digestive tract is actually outside your [00:43:00] body. And you have to break it all down so that you only absorb the nutrients that you need.

[00:43:07] You don't absorb undigested food that would actually hurt you and could kill you, right? So what do you do there? Best thing to do is we cook our foods. That kills the probiotics that are unnatural foods in nature. Destroys the digestive enzymes that are part of raw food that if you chew them, do 60 percent of the digestion for you.

[00:43:26] We've gone away from fiber and we don't pay attention to all the herbs and spices that have super useful benefits in your digestive system. So I got into that and, literally, I take enzymes every day. with food. If you cook the food, for sure, you should do that. Otherwise, you'll put a load on your digestive system.

[00:43:47] And when that gets overloaded, that'll put a load on your immune system. And then your immune system is not free to do all its other jobs. And so you end up with problems caused by poor immune [00:44:00] function. So if you cook them, you got to replace what you destroyed by doing that.

[00:44:03] Because remember, the mandate was threshold raw. Transcribed Or raw organic, right? That's how you get back to closer to raw. And the probiotics should start in your mouth. We swallow capsules. I would say open the, capsules, put them in food, or brush your teeth with them. Because then they work their way through your whole digestive tract and they have benefits everywhere in your digestive tract.

[00:44:27] So then the next thing was what's next? Greens. Everybody's supposed to eat their greens. Most people don't. So we made portable greens that taste good. A lot of greens don't taste that good. Portable greens that taste good. And then the next thing was, okay what's next? And then it was like, what, it was like, I asked the question, what else affects health?

[00:44:46] And the answer came back. Actually, everything affects health. So now, as I get into it, that's what I'm into now. Total health based in nature and human nature, or human nature as the teacher will feel. Now, why is that? [00:45:00] Because here we are. We've been here for 200, 000 years. We know more about our watches and our gadgets and our furniture than we know about ourselves.

[00:45:10] And why is that? Because if you want to get to know something, you've got to spend time with it, you want to get to know a person? You spend time with them. You want to get to know the furniture? Sit on it, right? And how much time do we actually spend with ourselves? 

[00:45:27] @Autumn Carter: We, if we have that moment, we're on social media of some sort.

[00:45:32] 

[00:45:32] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah. 

[00:45:33] @Autumn Carter: Texting away. And the 

[00:45:33] @ Udo Erasmus: point is, the point is social media will get you everything except yourself. Google would get you everything except yourself. You want yourself. You want to know what you are. You want to know how incredibly beautiful and magnificent you are as a human being made out of dust, water, air, and a little bit of sunlight.

[00:45:49] You have to spend time sitting down, shutting up. Leaving all your distractions outside, and just be present with [00:46:00] your self. Maybe you can follow your breathing, that might help. Or maybe you could just see how still can I get, and how deep can I go into that stillness, and how long can I hang out there, and what am I going to discover, see, hear, feel, taste, when I bring my focus into the space that my body occupies.

[00:46:21] And what you're going to find out, you actually have light in your head. If you get focused right with your focus in the middle of your head, you will see light in your head. You will hear music in the silence, or a sound in the silence. You will feel love in your emptiness.

[00:46:36] You will feel sweetness in the blandness of your mouth. There's something there to sense. So sense it. And when you do that, and you actually get good at it, because it takes a little practice, right? Because we're always going out out, But going in, we don't practice, so get good at going in. You'll get to a point where you feel so cared for that it's not about you anymore.

[00:46:55] And then you're free. Finally, you're finally free. Oh, my God, I [00:47:00] feel so cared for. Because life loves my body unconditionally, 24 7, empowers it, runs everything, asks for nothing back. There's love. And I think, there's love. You, want to be loved? Get in touch with the, life that loves you.

[00:47:15] Okay. And then when you, when that's, it's okay, I'm taken care of, so now what should I do? Oh, there's nothing left to do but to help. Oh, so now I'm going to do what needs to be done. Not because it's going to take care of me, but because it needs to be done. Or maybe I could even think of, gee, I wonder with me given my talents and my, experiences and my interests, what's the biggest splash for good I can make in the time I have?

[00:47:38] And all of a sudden my life is really simple, just because it's not about me to getting myself taken care of anymore, because I've been taken care of the whole time I was in my mother's body, the whole time after I came out and got lost in the world. Something has taken perfect care of me through the war that I went through.

[00:47:56] The bullets were flying and everything was all over the map, something took [00:48:00] perfect care of me. Gee, maybe that would be a good friend to have and really make friends with and really spend time with. And gee, maybe be grateful for. There's a whole other life. And then you can go into that, and then you can ask the question who's hearing, who's seeing, who's feeling what, I'm feeling?

[00:48:18] And you get to a place where there's an awareness. This is a peace that is a presence that is so calm that is not affected by any drama, trauma, circumstance, change, crisis, loss, grief, not affected. And that love, by the way, it's a flow through the body. of solar energy, a fraction of solar energy that is unconditional love, unconditional empowering love, never affected.

[00:48:44] Only thing that ever happens is our focus gets drawn away from them, then we don't notice them, then we don't feel them. They're always there. So if anytime we come back, they're always there. How do I know that? I've been doing it for over 50 years, every day. It has not been a single day when the peace was not there [00:49:00] and the love was not there.

[00:49:01] There's a cure for all the confusions that we have. Our foundation and it is so satisfying the purpose of life is in the experience of being present in our life. The shine of that love into the world. I call it inspired purpose. People looking for purpose, the purpose is already built into you, but you got to come home to read it.

[00:49:26] Once you come home and you feel cared for, finding purpose is not complicated. You just do what needs to be done. Do you help where you can? And the deeper you go, the more you realize how much talent you have to help in how many different ways, so that's number three.

[00:49:38] Number four is the physical body and that's food and fitness and digestion and all the things that most people talk about when they talk about health. Number five, I call it survival smarts or protective mind that's about preempting safety basically. So food, water, air, shelter of clothing, protection, right?

[00:49:59] [00:50:00] Education, survival skills, right? That's number five. Number six is what I call habitual mind. Habitual mind is all the garbage you carry around in your head that maybe never had value but doesn't have value anymore for sure. It would be just as well to dump. And that often includes your group memes, around here, we believe, blah, blah, blah, right?

[00:50:27] What does it say? Nothing you believe is true. Because if it was true, you would know. But it's because you don't know that you believe. So what do you believe in? Everything you believe is not true. And every group has its own set of beliefs. And every family, I call it the family neurosis.

[00:50:41] Whatever is the family neurosis is the family belief system. This is how we do things around here and you hear that often people say that, right? This is how we do things. This is what we expect of you. And some of it is just like completely arbitrary. And it doesn't add value, but we carry it around anyway, [00:51:00] just because it's habitual.

[00:51:01] So that's number six. Number seven is social group. And you know that social group affects your health. When we were kids, when I first came to Canada, we used to play soccer. And we were young, like I was 10 so we would kick the ball and miss the ball and kick somebody else in the shins.

[00:51:18] It happened. Sometimes they do it on purpose in big sports, but we did it by accident because we were clumsy. But you did that and immediately somebody would just yell at the top of their voice. You 

[00:51:30] Speaker 3: make me sick. 

[00:51:32] @ Udo Erasmus: So even way that early, we knew that other people can make us sick. And so then what do you do? Choose your friends to be people that empower you, give you space don't impose on you, don't beat you up. People who treat you like a human being who's worthy of respect and, space and cooperation and interaction. 

[00:51:56] But that's basically like that. And then you got the number [00:52:00] eight. Is the natural environment and we have a saying there's a saying that if you poop in your nest, you will nest in your poop. That covers pretty much every environmental issue. You drop poisons in your environment.

[00:52:15] They're going to end up in your body because you eat part of your environment. So you got to look at that. And then number nine is. Your connection to the big picture, your body is a terminal condition in an infinite universe and to be okay with that, right?

[00:52:33] Because you're not just the body, you're also part of all of that other stuff and to be okay with that. So that would be whatever you call that your God your deity, but it's the same as the, awareness in the core of your being. That's just your access point.

[00:52:47] Because that, same core awareness is not limited by your body, it's, you're a center point for it, so is every other place is a center point for it, and it goes from there out [00:53:00] to infinity. So you catch it on the outside, but you really get there from the inside. It's experiential. My view is always, it must be possible to see God and live.

[00:53:10] I want to know God. I don't want to believe in God. I want to know God. And maybe I was a little arrogant about it or strong about it because I went through a war, right? So I wanted it real. And it's possible. So that's number nine. And then number ten is emotions. And emotions are a composite of the other nine.

[00:53:30] So everything you do, nature and nature affects your emotions and your emotions tend to be positive, which is your, you've set goals and they are celebratory. And they are acknowledgements that your progress towards your set goals are doing, are going as well or as better as you planned or expected.

[00:53:54] And the negative emotions are an assessment that your [00:54:00] progress is being thwarted. And then you crank up those emotions to try to break through whatever the obstacle is that's getting in your way.

[00:54:06] @Autumn Carter: That reminds me of Tony Robbins. When he's starting things, he has the whole move around and he gets everyone. 

[00:54:14] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah. I don't do as much moving around. I have taken his Courses. he's pretty good. The sitting still is his biggest problem, as I've heard him say, because he's a doer, but we're supposed to be human beings, not human doing, and because being is more important than doing, because you can be without doing. But you can't do without being, so being is your foundation, and if you don't spend time, we're going back to the stillness practice now, if you're not spending time in being. Then you're living your life without foundation because being is your foundation.

[00:54:47] That's where your peace and your love are. This is where your wholeness lives. This is where nothing that ever happens in the world can take that away from you. And to have that as a foundation, especially in times like these where everything's all over the [00:55:00] map. And the only reason why everything is all over the map in politics and in, in religion and in human interaction is because as individuals, 

[00:55:10] none of us are spending enough time connecting on to our foundation, that we all have in common. We all have to eat, and we all have to sleep, and we all have kids, and we all worry about the future, and we all want life to be good. So we have so much in common.

[00:55:25] But what we argue about has nothing to do with that. And it's all head trips, right? 

[00:55:30] @Autumn Carter: How about when people argue and they're actually on the same page, but they're saying, no, we're not on the same page. And you're like, no, you're saying the same thing.

[00:55:38] @ Udo Erasmus: They're on the same page because they're on the same planet. 

[00:55:41] @Autumn Carter: That's true. 

[00:55:42] @ Udo Erasmus: But between Republicans and Democrats what are they talking? What do they fight each other about? They both, use the same bathroom, right? And really at the end of the 

[00:55:51] @Autumn Carter: Most people are in the middle. 

[00:55:53] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, most people are less political and more grounded than that because you change diapers. And you [00:56:00] cook food and you make beds and whatever it is, and you have a job that you're doing it's whatever it is you're doing, things that are directly involved in human existence in physical form on the planet Earth.

[00:56:15] That's the grounded stuff. You build houses, you make sure that the light switches work, you, change the light bulbs, you build shelves for your information that you need, right? Change your carpets once in a while. They changed all the pipes to all of my water.

[00:56:31] I'm in the middle of a construction zone right now. I got junk all over here and can't tell from here. It looks good 

[00:56:37] @Autumn Carter: there. 

[00:56:37] @ Udo Erasmus: Yeah, I know. This is the only part that looks good in my house right now, right? But it's all practical stuff that needs to be done on a continuing basis because houses get old and wood gets old and pipes rust and, toilets need to be replaced and bathtubs, spring leaks and there's always something to do to make the [00:57:00] quality of the individual life better.

[00:57:02] And we have enough money and enough resources that we could do that for every person in the United States, in North America, and on this planet at nobody's expense. Nobody has to be left out. There's enough resources for 8 billion people. And we could be living excited, exalted, in peace, inspired, dancing and singing, grateful because life is that good and we have the ability to do that.

[00:57:31] @Autumn Carter: And then, oh no, just one more thing. My air purifier just turned off. Start freaking out. 

[00:57:35] @ Udo Erasmus: Oh, yeah. One more thing is each one of those ten has a different nature has a different function needs a different kind of attention on a regular basis goes off in a different way and Responds to a different kind of intervention if you want to be totally healthy You have to give each one of this those it's do And whenever you're, you disconnect from it, something will show up that'll [00:58:00] let you know.

[00:58:01] And when you reconnect, you get it back. 

[00:58:03] @Autumn Carter: Sounds right. 

[00:58:03] @ Udo Erasmus: That's it. 

[00:58:04] @Autumn Carter: Tell us how to find you 

[00:58:05] @ Udo Erasmus: okay. So I have a book called Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill.

[00:58:08] It's a very well written book. In fact, I read it the other day. I said, wow, this guy really knew what he was talking about. I wrote it and then it's okay, I'm done with it. I started reading it because I was doing a talk and it was like, wow, it's good stuff.

[00:58:21] I'm still impressed. So like years later, I'm writing one called your body needs an oil change. That's in manuscript form, so that's coming. And then I'm working on the Total Health and Human Nature books. I've got about 10, 000 pages of notes. I've been working on it for a long time. And I have a website that is UdoErasmus.

[00:58:41] I'm on Facebook. I'm on Instagram. I have a YouTube channel. What else am I on? 

[00:58:47] @Autumn Carter: The oils. Where can we find the oils? 

[00:58:47] @ Udo Erasmus: Or the oils you find them in a brown glass bottle, in a box, in the fridge, in the supplement section, in the health food stores. You can also find them on Amazon.

[00:58:58] But I always [00:59:00] recommend the health food stores simply because they have them in the fridge. 

[00:59:03] @Autumn Carter: Amazon does. 

[00:59:06] @ Udo Erasmus: What Amazon does. And I like the idea of, local, helping local people. Supporting local businesses, 

[00:59:14] @Autumn Carter: you're gonna pick up the other health food things, 

[00:59:17] @ Udo Erasmus: yeah, then you can get the enzymes and the probiotics as well. 

[00:59:20] @Autumn Carter: Is there an enzyme that you recommend? 

[00:59:23] @ Udo Erasmus: I use one in Canada, it's called Urgent Care, and in the U. S. it's called Advanced Adult Enzyme Blend. It's made by a company called Flora, and it's the highest in protease I use it when I get sore throats, I'll open a capsule in my mouth, swish it around everywhere because the protease enzymes will digest the protein coat off viruses.

[00:59:49] So whenever you get virus infection you can pick them off and I literally I'll swish it around my mouth, swallow it. So it goes right there where my throat is sore. And that soreness goes [01:00:00] away in an hour. So I do that and the probiotics I brush my teeth with in the morning and in the evening.

[01:00:06] I want them to start at the top, find their way through them. And the one I use there is called Super Bifido Plus. It's a high bifido that's particularly good for colon health. And I'm 82, and people as they get older tend to need more support with bifidobacteria. It has some acid, acidophilus bacteria in it as well.

[01:00:29] And I 

[01:00:29] @Autumn Carter: know that as you get older there's not drinking enough water is what I hear is the main cause for constipation. 

[01:00:34] @ Udo Erasmus: Three things, three things on constipation, not enough water, not enough fiber, or not enough oil. Because the oil will slow down the rate at which water leaves your body through your skin.

[01:00:47] So you need less water. But you need to have enough, and then protein will make you constipated. Protein has no fiber in it. Fiber especially the flax fiber. By the way, flax is a better [01:01:00] seed from a health perspective than the other One. Chia, than Chia. Because it has lignans in it.

[01:01:07] Lignans have a ton of beautiful health effects that you don't have in GSC. And you would need to grind it. You need to blend it in a blender or put it in a shake because the cover is very tough. And if you don't break it, then you won't get the nutrients. So yeah so, those three.

[01:01:27] More oil till your skin is soft and velvety, then you know that you've got the water barrier. So if the brain is not built properly, then you'll need less water. Water, when you're constipated, more water is always going to be. Cause why is that? Because if you get dehydrated your body will pull water from where it needs at least to need it where it needs it most, but where do you need it?

[01:01:46] At least. On the exit of your colon is where you need it least. That's why people get constipated. It's being pulled into the body because it's needed there. And then the fibers is the third, part. The [01:02:00] fibers, the flax fiber, the mucilage fiber absorbs and holds water. And those are super good for bowel regularity.

[01:02:09] But if you don't drink enough water, then they can make you constipated. So you need to take those in a blender or a shake. That already has lots of water in it. Yeah 

[01:02:19] @Autumn Carter: Thank you. We've covered, I think, all the topics. This was amazing. And this is a longer episode, and that was on purpose.

[01:02:28] When we started, I could tell that we were going to need the space. 

[01:02:32] @ Udo Erasmus: If you want to go deeper into the big picture and the human nature stuff, we'll do another one. 

[01:02:37] @Autumn Carter: Yeah, sounds great. Let us know if you guys want to hear it because I'm always down for nerding out on stuff like this.

[01:02:44] Thank you so much for being on. Check out his website. Check out his books. Oil in the health food section. And if you feel like you are struggling with balance, with your wellness, There are many different modalities on wellness. [01:03:00] I really like the eight dimensions all of them, poorly with what you're saying.

[01:03:01] How close 

[01:03:01] @ Udo Erasmus: was, how close was I on, yeah, so 

[01:03:02] @Autumn Carter: mine were, it was originally five dimensions, and I got really into this when I learned about it during my undergrad in Applied Health. And then they've grown, so it is emotional wellness, social wellness, professional wellness, environmental wellness.

[01:03:19] Spiritual wellness. You seen the similarities? I, 

[01:03:20] @ Udo Erasmus: I, saw, I actually saw it. I looked you up last night. I actually saw it. 

[01:03:23] @Autumn Carter: Financial, physical, and psychological. So it was very fun seeing that they were the same, but different language, the same results. And that's really what it's about is trying the different ones on and seeing which one fits for you and makes the most sense that you're making the healthy choices.

[01:03:40] 

[01:03:40] @ Udo Erasmus: I'm glad you never became a dietitian. Because they're trained to make hospital diets, and the hospital diets are awful for health. And on your own feet, being independent, there's a huge amount that you can do for other people. 

[01:03:55] @Autumn Carter: Be in preventative. 

[01:03:56] @ Udo Erasmus: I could not be in preventative.

[01:03:57] But preventative is not far enough yet. [01:04:00] They have disease management. Then they have disease prevention. Where's health? Can't we just, can't we just aim for health? So then what is health? What are the components? What are the principles? How do I put that together? Because if you chase the carrot, you're never going to have to run from a stick.

[01:04:17] @Autumn Carter: I like it. Plus you can eat the carrot. 

[01:04:18] @ Udo Erasmus: And it's a way better life. 

[01:04:19] @Autumn Carter: Thank you. 

[01:04:21] @ Udo Erasmus: All right. Thanks, Autumn.

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