Wellness In Every Season

Episode 145: DREAMing: Embracing the Magic of Yes

• Autumn Carter/ Lori Pappas • Season 1 • Episode 145

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What if saying “yes” to yourself could turn knowledge into wisdom? In this heart-opening episode, entrepreneur, humanitarian, and author Lori Pappas joins Autumn to share how surviving childhood trauma, leading an international nonprofit in Ethiopia, and decades of reflection led her to The Magic of Yes—a personal model for inner peace.

Lori walks us through her DREAM framework—Desire, Reflect, Explore, Acknowledge, Mantra—and applies it live to spiritual wellness. You’ll hear how small rituals (like holding a smooth river rock at night or greeting the day with “May I meet this moment with ease”) can reconnect you to presence, and why taking responsibility for your choices is the quiet superpower behind lasting change. We also explore grounding practices in nature, releasing inherited emotional baggage, and building community that nourishes growth.

Learn more about Lori’s work, her book The Magic of Yes: Embrace the Wise Woman Within, and join her Wise Woman Sisterhood on Facebook via loripappas.com. Subscribe to her Substack newsletter Sticky Thoughts for stories of extraordinary, ordinary women. Connect with her on Instagram @loripappas_ and @magicofyes.

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Episode 145: DREAMing:Embracing the Magic of Yes

[00:00:00] Introduction to Wellness In Every Season

[00:00:00] Autumn Carter: This is episode 1 45.

[00:00:05] Welcome to Wellness In Every Season, the podcast where we explore the rich tapestry of wellness in all of its forms. I'm your host, autumn Carter, a certified life coach, turn wellness coach, as well as a certified parenting coach dedicated to empowering others to rediscover their identity in their current season of life.

[00:00:25] My goal is to help you thrive, both as an individual and as a parent.

[00:00:28] Meet Lori Papas: Entrepreneur, Humanitarian, and Author

[00:00:28] Autumn Carter: Today I have with me Lori Papas, and she, if you even can see the video, you can just see from her background that she has a dynamic personality, a lot of different things going on super fun. She's an entrepreneur, she's a humanitarian, and she's an author.

[00:00:48] And it looks like the book that you wrote is on the poster, the Magic of Yes. 

[00:00:54] Lori Pappas: Imagine that It is. Yes. 

[00:00:57] Autumn Carter: I'm excited to learn more about it. I really like [00:01:00] the cover. 

[00:01:01] Lori Pappas: I do too. Can 

[00:01:02] Autumn Carter: you tell us more about you.

[00:01:04] Lori's Journey: From Entrepreneur to Humanitarian

[00:01:04] Lori Pappas: Okay I am a, like so many people probably listening. I'm a survivor of childhood trauma that ended up shaping my life in certain ways. And one of the things that it did for me was it helped me develop a very tough skin. So no matter what was thrown at me, I could. Deflect the arrows and find some way to check and drive my way through whatever it might be.

[00:01:31] And one of the first ones was the entrepreneurial career. I started a manufacturing software company when I was a single mom with two little girls and had no money. But I picked a good market and I had some really talented people. I had a good business model and I was successful. So I was able to sell it when I was 49 and then [00:02:00] I failed retirement.

[00:02:02] Totally. I really worked hard at retirement. But I just didn't do it well, and, but what I did do well during that time was I did a lot of therapy, so I was able to deal with my baggage that I had been lugging around that whole entrepreneurial career, and while I was being a mother to my three kids at the time.

[00:02:26] And I was traveling. I traveled extensively. When I was in Africa, in Niger, I came across a little girl who happened to be the same age as my granddaughter Ella. This little girl had flies on her eyes and it really struck me that this could have been my Ella, because Ella did nothing spectacular to be my granddaughter.

[00:02:53] She just was born, my granddaughter, and this little girl had done nothing wrong to be born into this disease ridden life. [00:03:00] So that then launched my second major career, which was as a humanitarian, I thought I had started a for-profit business without knowing what I was doing. At least this time I knew how to run a business, so why don't I start an international charity?

[00:03:20] And so I did. And it was a lot harder than I thought. But at the end of the day, or really at the end of 10 years, we had helped over a hundred thousand people and had implemented a lot of different initiatives and water and female reproductive health and education and environment, been an orphanage and so on.

[00:03:44] So during that time though, here I am living over in Ethiopia alone, and I'd worked really hard and I'd come home stressed out because the communication was really difficult. I had 50 [00:04:00] employees by then, I was dealing with all these different donors and the government was harassing me. And I get home already to have a nice glass of wine and, there would be no electricity.

[00:04:13] So I would be forced to sit in the dark with the light of my three candles and think. That was the first time in my life I had really just thought and reflected, on all the different bits and pieces that made me, and what made you and these marvelous people that I was working with, what made them and things that were unfair in the world and so forth.

[00:04:43] The Magic of Yes: Lori's Book and Personal Model

[00:04:43] Lori Pappas: And that then became the genesis of my third career, which was my book and is my book as, I was developing my book, I realized that. I needed to have a [00:05:00] a personal model similar we help people.

[00:05:06] Like my business model helped run a good business, so I developed a personal model to help find more inner peace, more harmony in one's life. And that's something that I'd like to talk about because I think that might be something that your listeners would find helpful. So let me ask you, autumn, what you have a particular desire that you're working with right now?

[00:05:43] Autumn's Journey: Spiritual Wellness and Healing

[00:05:43] Autumn Carter: I am, I've been on a journey to, of recovery from childhood abuse and trauma as well. So connection there. And for my desire. The biggest one that I'm working on right now is my spiritual wellness. [00:06:00] Uhhuh. I have the religion piece, which I feel like fills in quite a bit of, if it's a circle, so to speak.

[00:06:06] It fills in quite a bit of the circle, but there's things that are missing that I'm working on. I have my own life coach that's helping me through that and working on what pieces need to fill this in to feel like I am full in this area of wellness. It's one, it's neglected 'cause I'm like, oh, I have religion, it's good enough and no it's not.

[00:06:31] I'm missing pieces. 

[00:06:33] Exploring Spiritual Wellness: Practices and Reflections

[00:06:33] Lori Pappas: When I look up spiritual wellness and I think about spiritual wellness, there's so many aspects of spirituality. So you're got the religious piece, meaning that you have a organized religion or faith. There's something such as that. Yes. And so then the things that you're reflecting on.

[00:06:59] [00:07:00] Would be, what else is there or what would make that complete? 

[00:07:06] Autumn Carter: I think it's part of, like you're saying, just sitting there and reflecting Uhhuh, I think the trauma part is what has me be such a doer, Uhhuh that I'm go do, uhhuh. So it's, allowing myself to reflect, to have that deeper healing through reflection and.

[00:07:29] I'm not sure what I'm missing, to be honest. I try a few different things. I'm like, okay, that one resonates a little bit, but I feel like I need something else. I'm just trialing different things out, 

[00:07:45] Lori Pappas: really. 

[00:07:47] Autumn Carter: Then the 

[00:07:47] Lori Pappas: Your voice at the end of the sentence came on.

[00:07:50] Yeah, that was my dog. Anyway, the exploring part. So you're reflecting to see whether or not [00:08:00] there needs to be something else for you to explore. Is that right? Yeah. Whether it be a connection to nature or the universe, whether it be more in the holistic realm, a body, mind, spirit, or, I guess there would be areas of the psychological peace or philosophical or what have you.

[00:08:26] Autumn Carter: I know there's so many different options, so I know spending time in nature is really good for me. I love hiking. However, I have four young children and they don't harder. The amazing thing is my oldest is the one who throws the tantrum on a hiking trail, not the other ones.

[00:08:45] And it is about connecting my mind, body, spirit. So I have a somatics coach that I've been working with as well, because there is, right. Sexual abuse in my past. So there is that definite disconnect at times. [00:09:00] Yeah, it's, I know things are broken, but I'm not sure exactly where in that realm. I figured it out in other places.

[00:09:10] But not this one. 

[00:09:13] Lori Pappas: So then you're really acknowledging as well that there's more to learn. It's up to you to be open. So whatever pity needs to drop, it can. Yes. It seems like you're a very curious person, so you're open-minded. Yeah. I love that. And you love learning, and you're certainly willing to reflect.

[00:09:42] So do you have a favorite mantra or saying or something that you keep reminding yourself of that helps you?

[00:09:57] Autumn Carter: I have parenting ones. 

[00:09:59] Lori Pappas: [00:10:00] Yeah. Just to try to get through all that chaos, 

[00:10:02] Autumn Carter: divide and conquer, 

[00:10:04] Lori Pappas: because we have four 

[00:10:04] Autumn Carter: kids. Yeah. And we do that quick. Okay. You take those two? I'll take these two. Or you take these two? I'll take one. That is one of 'em. Yeah. Several different sayings, but most of 'em are around parenting 

[00:10:17] Lori Pappas: I remember when I was your age in that era, what kind of kept resonating in my mind at that time was if it is to be, it's up to me. All I have to do is do it. I, remember just saying that over and over to myself to get through what I needed to get through to be able to go on to the next day, because it is chaotic it's tough being a parent of.

[00:10:46] Four kids. Yeah. And I had three and that was tough enough. 

[00:10:50] Autumn Carter: Say, it doesn't matter the number, it's just tough being a parent. 

[00:10:53] Lori Pappas: Yeah. It really is a challenge. So really what we just talked about [00:11:00] was your dream, your desire to really feel spiritually complete. Is that.

[00:11:08] Honest to say. Yeah. And reflecting on what components you have right now and what they bring to you, and then acknowledge, then the that's a reflect the R and then the E is explore, exploring what else there might be. Yeah. And then acknowledging the fact that. You're feeling like there is something missing.

[00:11:40] So that really almost acts like the energy, the power behind that reflection and that exploration because you're motivated. 

[00:11:51] Autumn Carter: Yep. So I've tried meditation. That feels really good. So adding more of Uhhuh. I was in a car accident in [00:12:00] October, so this area, it's flaring up less and less Finally. Huh. Such a relief.

[00:12:05] Felt like that would never end and I can't weight lift right now, so that stinks. 

[00:12:11] Lori Pappas: I was really enjoying. That's, it's not the end of the world. 

[00:12:14] Autumn Carter: Yeah. It flares it up. So I've been diving more into yoga, which is really fun. Uhhuh. And there's one class in particular on Saturdays that has different mantras in there and a lot more breathing exercise and that which I feel like I like putting that into my meditation, those things, so all in one, practice. I love that. Uhhuh, if you can get a few different things stacked in one setting. As a busy mom, I'm on board 

[00:12:44] Lori Pappas: okay. Okay. Adding that in 

[00:12:46] Autumn Carter: I enjoy gardening, so this is the time of year for me. 

[00:12:49] Lori Pappas: Perfect. 

[00:12:53] Autumn Carter: Yeah, I feel like I do better if I am outdoors for a little bit.

[00:12:57] But just having the fresh air being [00:13:00] around plants, it just right. Being with my dogs, playing with them outside with the ball. I'm a dog person too. It's just, yeah, trying new things and finding what works.

[00:13:11] I've started adding in some crystals in working on my chakras to release D trying stuff. I got as far as I could with therapy. So it's okay, what's next on my journey? What's next? 

[00:13:27] Lori Pappas: What's the 

[00:13:28] Autumn Carter: next thing that I can do to heal myself? Because I know the more that I heal myself, the better I show up for helping other people as I can 'em, right?

[00:13:36] And help people in my community, even people who I never intend on coaching, just. Helping for a one time and then Okay, great. Or becoming friends with them or whatever. Not everything has to be a coaching session with somebody. But I know I just show up better as a, in all my different roles if I am [00:14:00] healing myself.

[00:14:02] And I know healing my, getting more in contact with the spiritual side of myself will help that. Because I know. That my spirit is bigger than my body, like everybody's is. And it, I feel like it's part of the trauma that's forgotten that. 

[00:14:22] Because my body was attacked and my mind was attacked.

[00:14:28] So my spirit was attacked and it just had that disconnect from there that it's still. Figuring out how to tie that back, back in together. I feel like I'm windy trying to sew Peter Pan. Shadow back on. That's a really old movie. I swear I'm not aging myself by saying that, but anyway, it's just 

[00:14:48] Figuring that out. So yeah, I'm definitely stuck in the exploring. I'm having some fun with it too, but it's. Just sorting through it, I [00:15:00] feel like I'm rambling. 

[00:15:03] Lori Pappas: One of the things, and I really appreciate you sharing that, it's and that's really what this. Third career of mine seems to be morphing into I don't quite know what it's all gonna look like.

[00:15:17] We're gonna have to check back in 20 years and I'll tell you, I'll be 96 then. I'm 76 right now. 

[00:15:23] Autumn Carter: But you seem to be going through agile, but like mentally, like in all the ways that, I'm pretty sure you'll still be puttering along. Oh yeah. 

[00:15:35] Lori Pappas: Oh, I think my mind will work well. I don't know about these joints, but I can keep getting 'em replaced.

[00:15:40] That's one of the wonderful things about modern day surgery. 

[00:15:43] Autumn Carter: That's true. You'll also be a robot with the brain. 

[00:15:45] Lori Pappas: Yeah. There we go. That works for me. Might feel good Anyway. 

[00:15:52] The Power of Reflection and Connection

[00:15:52] Lori Pappas: And I think that's one of the blessings of, being this age and having had the experiences and now really understanding the power of reflection.

[00:16:05] You really hit the points there as far as what does it take to turn knowledge into wisdom and it really is when we have this knowledge that we've gained from learning through experiences or school or life or work or whatever, if we can separate the noise from it. It's really the matter of getting rid of that emotional baggage the supposed to programming that we had as young people or the cultural constraints that are laid upon us.

[00:16:52] And that's what I try to do in my book is to guide people through a [00:17:00] progression. Of learning how to win with the cards they're dealt to eventually being able to recognize their wise woman within. And that's what the magic of Yes is all about. And the way that we do that is through the dream, just like we just did with you.

[00:17:24] The desire, reflect, explore, acknowledge in a mantra. And and I love it when I'm able to ask people, what is your mantra? Or what, do you find that kind of helps give you a spurt through the day? And and yes, the things that we learned to do in yoga and mindfulness practice and mantras and, and so forth. I, know one of the favorite things that I've learned is [00:18:00] every day I try, to remember this, I don't always remember, but when I'm walking my dog early in the morning, I always try to say to myself, I'm going to meet this moment fully may I meet this moment with ease. And it seems like when I say that.

[00:18:22] It helps remind me to be present and I happen to love nature, and nature really nourishes me and I'm in love with trees. I love looking at the leaves and the structures and everything about a tree I think is cool. And to me, they're very magical and nourishing. So I think we all find what it is that we need.

[00:18:54] If we're willing to accept the fact that it's our responsibility to [00:19:00] find it. It's nobody else's responsibility to make you happy or to help you find peace. It's your responsibility. 

[00:19:11] Autumn Carter: But I've never, once you decide that you want this thing. Then doors start opening for you. 

[00:19:18] Lori Pappas: They do because you start noticing and you become open.

[00:19:23] Yep. And then that curiosity kicks in and then we learn. So it's wonderful. 

[00:19:32] Autumn Carter: I love that you asked me at the beginning if I'd be open for this, because I was digging into some of the polls that I've had with my newsletter audience, and when I asked, I think last year, and I went back to it for the questions that you asked me before this of what are my listeners looking for the most, it was spiritual wellness, so yeah, it was, oh, huh.

[00:19:58] They're on the same path I [00:20:00] am. 

[00:20:00] Lori Pappas: Yeah. And then when you really look at what is spiritual wellness, I think what, is so important to me anyway is that it means something different to different people. 

[00:20:14] Autumn Carter: Absolutely. 

[00:20:16] Lori Pappas: People even define spirituality different.

[00:20:23] There's just, there's such richness in these questions. And then when we look at how do we align ourselves, there's such richness in that because there's so many parts of us to align, and then those have layers. So the more that we can live in alignment and be congruent, the easier it is to stay in that.

[00:20:51] Real sweet spot. 'cause there's a lot that can tug you out on the edges. [00:21:00] 

[00:21:00] Autumn Carter: And when you were talking about how you like trees, I was thinking about how a lot of people are like, no, I like the ocean. I am a forest person. I grew up in Arizona where there aren't a lot of trees.

[00:21:10] So I am very grateful to now be in Maryland where there's lots of trees, 

[00:21:15] Lori Pappas: right? 

[00:21:16] Autumn Carter: One day it's on my bucket list. Probably not with kids, or maybe they need to be older, but seeing the redwood forest would be an absolute dream. Just feeling so small amongst those redwoods and just remembering that they have been here so much longer that I will ever dream of.

[00:21:35] Lori Pappas: I 

[00:21:35] Autumn Carter: like those feelings that make you feel small. But you feel purposeful too, like you have a place, but your place. Isn't always as big as you think it, it's that ego check, I guess is the way to say it. And for me, my own definition of wellness with spiritual wellness would just be that feeling of [00:22:00] wholeness, of just that deep grounding and knowing and just like the redwoods, just that

[00:22:09] sturdiness and just, I know my place. I belong here. And that connection as their roots connect with each other and having that thick hide that you said that you learned to have, where they have their own fire retardant, they're not immune by any means, but their bark is thicker, that they can withstand more things.

[00:22:34] Just having that ancient tree, almost like wisdom, but within myself, that's. My definition and good luck putting that in a dictionary because that was like a ramble. But for me it's more emotional. So it's harder to get the words, but just that sturdy groundedness, I guess is what I would go back to.

[00:22:57] Lori Pappas: Yeah, it's wonderful. I live in the redwoods. I [00:23:00] mean it's oh, there you go. Go visit. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And. You're absolutely right. They are absolutely amazing. And another tree that we have out here is the California Live Oak, and they're not as tall and not necessarily as old, but really fascinating with fascinating structures.

[00:23:25] Yeah, I find a lot of nurturing in nature, and in fact, when I lived over in Ethiopia and I, even though I was surrounded by a lot of people, I lived alone and I spent a lot of time alone because I didn't really speak the language well. And I would fall asleep at night holding a rock in my hand and I could feel.

[00:23:55] The groundedness by holding that [00:24:00] little rock. And that gave me so much peace and satisfaction during that time. So that's something I like to tell listeners as well, is that if you're looking for something that that you can do that's not gonna interrupt your life in any way, shape, or form, no matter where you live.

[00:24:24] Maybe your partner might like it, but they better get over it. Is hold a rock stick with a rock in your hand? It's easy to do. I like the little smooth round ones, but but it gives you a connection and that's really what we need, is we need connection. Human beings are wired for connection.

[00:24:48] Autumn Carter: I was imagining a river rock when you were saying that. Holding. 

[00:24:52] Lori Pappas: Yeah. River Rocks are great. They've been humbled, they've been seasoned in a very nice way, 

[00:24:59] Autumn Carter: and they're [00:25:00] porous, right? I know some people go and hug trees. I know some people go I have two dogs, so I'm not doing this, but they'll walk barefoot in their yard.

[00:25:05] I won't even do that in my front yard 'cause deer poop in the front yard. Dogs poop in the back. I'm good. But that groundedness of just having your feet in the earth like that. And I remember it was a kid feeling that way, especially after it rained in Arizona. Just feeling that. And the hometown that I'm from, it has the smell and it rains.

[00:25:21] So just that the some people will, this is recently that I heard. I'm like, I don't I don't. I would need to wash my face several times. But having your face against the earth and he was saying having your butt towards the sky. So I just I've ne I've only heard that from one person on a podcast, so I'm not sure how legit that is.

[00:25:46] I think I would go a tree hugging first rather than, there you go. My face in the dirt. Yeah. But there are different ways to ground us and just how much nature does that. And I think along with spiritual wellness, it's remembering that [00:26:00] energy and that we are energetic beings and that everything has energy around us.

[00:26:06] Lori Pappas: And 

[00:26:07] Autumn Carter: the way to feel that energy from the earth, the easiest way is to be in nature. 

[00:26:13] Some people go through the forest and they touch the trees. I used to, until I learned about poison ivy and realized I'm very allergic. No, thank you. Now I know what to look forward to. But there are different ways to realize that we are just a part of the circle of life and where we belong.

[00:26:38] Lori Pappas: And I think the other thing that's really important to realize with that is the fact that we're all connected through DNA. So all of us, every human being in this world is connected and we all share DNA. And I think that is a really wonderful thing [00:27:00] that people that we've never met we're still connected to people of different ethnicities, different religions, different.

[00:27:10] Political parties, what have you. We are all connected and I think that's really important. 

[00:27:17] The Wise Woman Sisterhood and Community

[00:27:31] Lori Pappas: And in fact I've started a Facebook group, the Wise Woman Sisterhood that I'd love to invite you to join, and I'd love to invite you with listeners to join. Yeah, I'll be happy to send you a link.

[00:27:31] Okay. And 

[00:27:31] Autumn Carter: I'll put it in the description for all of you listening. 

[00:27:33] Lori Pappas: And that's getting to be a very fun group. We're getting a lot of podcast hosts. We have a lot of authors. We have a number of listeners. We've got people from Australia, from England, from the us, from Canada.

[00:27:50] Mexico. So it's a safe gathering place where people can share and learn and communicate and [00:28:00] connect and celebrate and I think that's really needed nowadays. 

[00:28:06] Autumn Carter: It really is. We, you could have easily, when you saw that little girl. She's not my granddaughter. Like just did that whole separation in your mind.

[00:28:17] But you did not. And I think that shows so much of your character and it's a reminder to all of us that we share, DNA, we are related. And we should be hand giving that hand of, here, let me help you up. 

[00:28:34] Lori Pappas: And it's it's thrilling. It is thrilling. Some of my absolute favorite people in this world live in the extreme southwest corner of Ethiopia, where I worked Gulu and Doby, and they look very different than I do.

[00:28:51] They dress very different than I do, but oh my goodness, if I could share their soul. [00:29:00] They are definitely the stardust in me and whatever sparkles in me, it comes from people like them. And what an honor and how wonderful to know that, to be able to really internalize that, that we are connected, that we all have choice, that we all.

[00:29:28] Have to really, to be, I really feel that the secret to happiness is to take responsibility for your choices. Oh true, And then make your choices accordingly. 

[00:29:42] Autumn Carter: And that part's not the happiness, it's the journey. 

[00:29:46] Lori Pappas: It is. But every day can be joyful. Yeah. Every day.

[00:29:51] And that's our choice. We can wake up in the morning and say. Oh, I really feel like crap. Or we can say, even though we feel like crap, [00:30:00] we can say, I am got a positive mental attitude today and it's a great day and I'm gonna have the best day I possibly can have today. And that's our choice. And that sets the tenor of the day.

[00:30:16] Autumn Carter: I agree. It's when you're stuck and you're not willing to really see your stuff and see your way through. That's when, you're unhappy, and then once you can see that there's still unhappiness. But then once you start to come up with a game plan, that's where the happiness starts, in my opinion. 

[00:30:34] Lori Pappas: Yeah.

[00:30:35] It really all goes into taking responsibility for choice because many times we may be victims, but we don't need to fall into victim hood. Bad things happen, but it's our choice how we deal with that bad thing. [00:31:00] That really is our choice, and it's really important to take responsibility for that and to rejoice in that, that we have a choice

[00:31:07] Autumn Carter: and we can totally give that baggage back. That's not mine. You gave it to me, but that's not my baggage. 

[00:31:10] Lori Pappas: That's right. That's right. 

[00:31:13] Autumn Carter: You don't need to carry on all this extra weight. That's not even yours. The old thinking, the old habits. 

[00:31:21] Maybe anger that was your parents. I had to work through that and realize I'm not actually an angry person.

[00:31:27] That's that person. That's right. You have that back. And it's very liberating to really decide what things am I going to hold and what things not. 

[00:31:39] Lori Pappas: And you travel so much lighter when you're not carrying emotional baggage. You drop it, then you've got both arms free 

[00:31:47] Autumn Carter: and you connect better to other people that way.

[00:31:51] Fully agree. Yeah. So that's good. T

[00:31:55] Conclusion and Final Thoughts

[00:32:04] Autumn Carter: hank you for being on. Thank you for sharing parts of your book, the framework around it, your journey to writing your book. Wow. For me, it would not have landed the same if you did not tell me your journey before telling me about your book

[00:32:10] the journey that you went on and you were in the middle of helping so many people and being with yourself and realizing these things are coming to me that I need to share with the rest of the world. You, found another way to heal the world from you were already path, another path presented itself for healing.

[00:32:36] Lori Pappas: It's an honor and it's a thrill. And I love being on these podcasts and meeting people like you. I just wish that your audience were right in front of us so I could meet every one of you listening as well. I'm, older and I'm used to talking to rooms full of people that I could see their eyes and connect with each other.

[00:32:57] But it's so wonderful with [00:33:00] this technology and that we can reach so many more people. And I just really thank you so much for all that time and energy you put into making this podcast happen. I, know it's not trivial. It's a lot of work. 

[00:33:14] Autumn Carter: It absolutely is. And it has been. So rewarding, simply just meeting people like you.

[00:33:21] On my podcast, I thought I was only going to do solo episodes, and my first stranger reached out to me and I realized, oh, I'm gonna have more. I better come up with a framework for this. And it just started this whole thing. And now I only reach out to a handful of people. Most people find me now. And it has really filled in the gaps of where speaking on wellness and the different topics that I would never have covered or not covered very well.

[00:33:53] So it's really nice to have other people who already have the [00:34:00] knowledge to be able to share it. It's been really fun and it's, I love being able to share this with other people. I started my podcast before I even finished my coaching certification. I just knew I needed to do this so that I could meet people where they're at, and this was a zero cost to them way to learn different areas of wellness.

[00:34:24] If they ever are ready for me to help them more one-on-one, great. If not, they're still getting something. So this was always my plan 

[00:34:34] Lori Pappas: from the That's great. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. You'll meet a number of coaches on the Wise Woman sisterhood. Yeah. That'll be fun. 

[00:34:45] Autumn Carter: Yeah. I'm glad you're gonna join us.

[00:34:47] You guys wanna meet Laurie? Jump on her Facebook group. 

[00:34:51] Lori Pappas: Exactly, because that's really where I connect with people. I don't have time to really be connecting one-on-one [00:35:00] otherwise, but that Facebook group is my baby, so that's where I respond. And where I hang out is my wise woman sisterhood. 

[00:35:09] Autumn Carter: And we'll have her book there.

[00:35:11] And her Facebook group and her website as well. Are there any other links that you'll find in the 

[00:35:16] Lori Pappas: description? You will. The I write a newsletter called Sticky Thoughts. Oh, cute. And that is glimpse into extraordinary ordinary women's lives, how they navigate their stuff and what kind of dream framework they end up using.

[00:35:33] And then I'm on Instagram. Let's see. So it's Substack, Instagram, Facebook, the Facebook group. And I think there might be something else that they've got me on. But my, my baby's the Facebook group, wise woman sisterhood. 

[00:35:52] Autumn Carter: Thank you for being on, Lori. I really appreciate this. 

[00:35:55] Lori Pappas: It is my pleasure. Thank you for doing this. Bye-bye.

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