Human Design Fully Explained

Feeling drained, out of alignment, or like your life and business are running you instead of the other way around? This episode will help you make sense of what’s going on beneath the surface.

In Episode 169 of Wellness in Every Season, Autumn sits down with Dr. Marie Gasper-Hulvat, an art historian, professor, Reiki practitioner, and human design guide who has walked through depression, chronic pain, PTSD symptoms, and major spinal surgery—and come out with a radically different understanding of how energy, mental health, and purpose weave together.

You’ll hear Marie talk candidly about:

• How depression first showed up in her teens and later flared with birth control, chronic illness, and spinal cord issues
• The difference between biochemical depression and her emotional wave in human design
• How Reiki, self-tracking, and energy work helped her untangle what was “hers” versus what was stuck energy or physical imbalance
• Why understanding your type (Generator, Manifesting Generator, Projector, Manifestor, Reflector) can change how you make decisions, parent, and run a business
• What happened when she ran a human design chart for her business—and realized it had very different needs than she does

We also explore simple daily practices—like yoga, food awareness, self-Reiki, and rest—that keep her grounded and functional in real life, not just in theory.

Learn more about Marie, generate your human design chart, or grab her free reports at soulstarattunement.com, and connect with her on Instagram and LinkedIn for more insights on human design, Reiki, and energy work.

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Transcript

Episode 169: Human Design Fully Explained

[00:00:00] Introduction to Wellness In Every Season

[00:00:00] Autumn Carter: This is episode 1 69. We are gonna be talking about depression and human design and how they go together.

[00:00:10] Welcome to Wellness In Every Season, the podcast where we explore the rich tapestry of wellness in all of its forms. I'm your host, autumn Carter, a certified life coach, turn wellness coach, as well as a certified parenting coach dedicated to empowering others to rediscover their identity in their current season of life.

[00:00:29] My goal is to help you thrive, both as an individual and as a parent.

[00:00:33] Meet Dr. Marie Gasper-Hulvat

[00:00:33] Autumn Carter: Thank you for joining me today, Dr. Marie Gasper-Hulvat, and I keep wanting to say your name, like worse than it is, like more German or so easy. Anyway, it's all good. Thank you for joining us today.

[00:00:49] I'm so excited for this conversation and I'm excited to see where it's gonna take us, especially because for some reason technology glitched and you did not get an outline to [00:01:00] fill out. So we had this really quick conversation, okay what do we wanna talk about? And Dr. Marie has been a little everywhere and done a little bit of everything, especially if you can see the video screen.

[00:01:12] You can tell she's traveled, she's done things, she's done life. I'm really excited. 

[00:01:18] Understanding Soul Star Attunement

[00:01:18] Autumn Carter: Let's start off with, I really love what you call yourself in your business. I even had to write it down. It's guardian of Soul star attunement. Can you explain what that is? And there was more to it than just that.

[00:01:35] So let's dive into that and then go from there. Absolutely. 

[00:01:38] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Yeah. I don't like to call myself an owner of business because I feel like I'm tending the business. The business is its own entity. It has its own energy. So Guardian caretaker of this business called Soul Star attunement is what I'm coming to, to step into and I call my, position.

[00:01:58] Happiness mentor and [00:02:00] chaos recovery supporter, because those are the things that I really do well when I work with my clients is help them find their happiness, help them find the place of stability in the midst of their chaos. So that's my job position. I'm also an art historian.

[00:02:20] I'm also, I also teach I'm a professor. So I really am all over the place and I do all sorts of things. 

[00:02:28] Exploring the Chakra System

[00:02:28] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: But my business soul star attunement is the way I, the reason, the name of my business, what that's all about is are you familiar with the chakra system? So you have your seven chakras that are in, and then there's the, crown chakra that's right above your head.

[00:02:45] There's actually a chakra that's up above that crown chakra and that's your soul star. And so that's the connection to your higher self. You are connected through the crown chakra to your soul star. So [00:03:00] that's why I call my business soul star treatment because I'm helping people connect to their higher selves and find their path their soul's path.

[00:03:10] Autumn Carter: Tell me more about that. I've never heard of that. 

[00:03:13] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Yeah, it makes sense though. There's actually more chakras than those seven ones. There's also one below our feet called the the earth star chakra. And then I think there's actually ones above the Soul Star.

[00:03:25] But that's a little more esoteric than I've gotten into. But yeah it's considered, there's multiple chakras on the human body beyond just those seven primary ones that are like smaller ones that do different things. And some of them are aligned with traditional Chinese medicine, like acupuncture points.

[00:03:47] Some of them aren't. There's two really powerful chakras. The palms of the hands are directly connected to the heart chakra. And I use those chakras a lot in my work in my self-healing. [00:04:00] Those are extremely powerful chakras, especially once they've been activated with something like reiki and reiki attunement.

[00:04:07] Autumn Carter: Oh, I was just thinking during my what is she called? My reflexologist. I can feel when she's there, just, whoa. Lots of stuff starts happening right in my chest area. 

[00:04:19] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Yeah. It's all, interconnected to the chakras, and the palms of your hands. Which is pretty cool.

[00:04:25] Autumn Carter: That is really cool. 

[00:04:27] Depression and Human Design

[00:04:28] Autumn Carter: So let's start with the heavy hitting, the depression part. And how has this manifested in your life? You've had an amazing career, obviously, just looking in the pictures behind you with being an art historian, being a professor. How did that affect you? And let's talk about your journey there, and go as far back as you need to, really give us the story. 

[00:04:53] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Absolutely. I'll start. When I was 15, I [00:05:00] had what I remember as my first major serious episode of depression. That involved suicidal ideation. And I was just, I was probably depressed long before that, but it didn't become scary until this, point in time when I was 15.

[00:05:20] And I knew, okay this is a problem. I actually didn't know entirely what depression was. I just knew that there was something very wrong. I have struggled with bouts of depression throughout my life. I had a major depressive episode when I started on birth control.

[00:05:39] And the doctor was like, oh yeah, that's a common side effect. I'm like maybe you should have told me that. So that's, we should shifted all that up. And then I struggled on and off with depression in grad school. 

[00:05:53] The Role of Emotional Waves

[00:05:53] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: I didn't really come to understand like how I was dipping into depression [00:06:00] and what depression felt as opposed to being stable until I understood my human design. So just a few years ago I started my human design journey in 2022. And learned about what human design was and learned about my own human design and understood that in my human design, I have what's called an emotional wave. My human design authority.

[00:06:30] So the thing that I need to listen to, to make big decisions has an emotional wave and the emotional wave goes up and goes down. And generally, it's either up or it's down. There's different, ways to graph emotional waves depending on how they show up in the human design chart.

[00:06:48] In the body graph chart my wave is either like up or it's down, and I have to be careful to not commit to things when it's down. Because if I commit to [00:07:00] something when it's up and then I go down and I'm like, oh, actually no, I don't wanna do that at all.

[00:07:06] I've gotten myself into something that actually isn't the right pathway for me. Once I learned about this, it took me like I was in my human design training. When I first learned about emotional authority, it was like, okay, and you need to start tracking your emotions.

[00:07:22] Like you need to track where you are on your emotional wave. And I resisted that. I resisted that very intensively, like in my whole body. There was something they didn't want to talk about that. And so it took me hearing from several different, trusted fellow human design practitioners, and one of 'em just helped me understand how tracking it would work for me because I just couldn't figure out how, am I supposed to be able to track?

[00:07:52] And I finally was able to it took actually a while to get to a place where I [00:08:00] could trust my inner knowing. And that was also part of the human design journey. It was also part of my reiki journey. 

[00:08:08] Reiki and Human Design Journey

[00:08:08] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Reiki is what brought me to human design. Through reiki and through human design, I have been able to tap into just a higher authority, a higher self knowledge.

[00:08:22] That I can just ask questions to. So if I ask myself what's my I live with chronic pain issues, which are somewhat related to the depression, but also disconnected. And I can ask myself where am I on the pain level? Like where, am I on the pain scale today? I can just go through 0, 1, 2, 3.

[00:08:45] Okay. And I get this kind of just like feeling in the back of my head. And it's three, three is the answer. Three is where I am on the pain scale today. So I realized that I could do that with my, where I am on my emotional wave. And so I just started tracking every day, [00:09:00] just asking myself, where am I on a scale of one to 10 on my wave?

[00:09:03] And I was able to start getting a sense of how often my wave moves and what the, like what happens with my wave, how it's affected by things going on with my physical body. And that helped me understand that my emotional wave is distinctly different from what it feels like to be depressed, because I would feel like really gross, really awful.

[00:09:29] Really. I don't wanna get outta bed and my inner authority be like, you're at a 10 today. I'm like, no, I'm not. Whatcha talking about, but it all kind of crystallized. 

[00:09:45] Physical Ailments and Depression

[00:09:45] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: And so much of my experiences of depression in hindsight I've seen are directly connected to physical ailments happening in my body.

[00:10:02] So when I was 15, it was after three months of chronic sinus infections and I was done. I was like, I have no more left. It is just I'm so tired of being sick when I was in my twenties and trying to figure out how to have a relationship without having children.

[00:10:21] Yet. That was, again, a physical biochemical thing that happened in my body when I had one of the scariest episodes of depression was about seven years ago. I fell into just I could, barely move. I could barely walk upstairs. And it wasn't a physical thing. It was very much a mental, emotional thing.

[00:10:50] And I would go to my chiropractor and he would adjust my cerebral spinal fluid flow. And I would walk out and I'd be like [00:11:00] I can conquer the world because suddenly fluid was moving through my brain again. And the trash was being taken out. I had an issue with cerebral spinal fluid, not being able to move the brain creates waste too, and not being able to move the waste out and dispose of the toxins through the way that's supposed to happen.

[00:11:26] Shortly after that, I was diagnosed with a severe spinal cord disorder that I've had probably my entire life. And it was like, oh, that's probably related to some of the depressive episodes is when my cerebral spinal fluid, like when things were just not moving, then I would get depressed because the biochemicals, they get blocked up in the brain and when the transmitter stations, the place where neurotransmitters attach or receive information they're not receiving that information.

[00:11:58] Yeah, you're gonna feel. [00:12:00] You're gonna feel awful. You're gonna feel like you're not getting the chemicals that allow you to feel excited or happy or even wanna get out of bed. Do you have questions at 

[00:12:12] Autumn Carter: this point before I go on my next flooring up. So I keep like micro moving anyway.

[00:12:17] I'm two today. Yeah. That's when the three is coming in. Yep. So I just keep singing. 'cause I told you my little guy is still underfoot right now, but I keep singing the song. This Bone is connected to this bone, that song. And we tend to forget that. Especially western side of the world where I remember going to the ob and saying, I'm not feeling well.

[00:12:49] I feel like this is outta whack. And her being like you need to go see your primary care physician for that. I'm like, okay. But you do realize all of this is [00:13:00] connected together. And I'm not sure if this is affecting my baby or if my baby's making this happen, can you listen first?

[00:13:10] And it's that reminder that we are very connected. All of these things are connected. And it goes back to the very beginning with you talking about, I even have to look at it again. The soul star. Like all the way up here. And I was doom scrolling because I wasn't feeling well. And there's this one guy who keeps popping up on my feed when I Don't doom scroll.

[00:13:42] And he is a, he does spiritual wellness something. And him just talking about how our spirit is so much bigger than our bodies. We think of it as something that perfectly fits our bodies, but it's bigger than that. 

[00:13:59] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: And 

[00:13:59] Autumn Carter: that's [00:14:00] definitely where you go with the reiki. 

[00:14:02] But it's that reminder that we are connected in so many different ways.

[00:14:09] And it goes back to the wellness of being in balance. And when we're not in balance, our body is trying to show us by pain, by depression. Depression can be so, many things. Like it's, hard to touch it because I'm gonna have somebody raising their hand. No, but it happens for a myriad of reasons.

[00:14:31] Sometimes it is just the fact, like one client that I'm working with, it's just the fact that we are so out of alignment with ourselves. And that we don't feel like we can get out of that. Or it can be from chronic pain. It can be, like you said, it can be chemical and the imbalance.

[00:14:51] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Yeah. I feel like it's like high blood pressure. High blood pressure can be caused by a bunch of different things. I had serious dangerous high [00:15:00] blood pressure twice so far in my life and then reversed it.

[00:15:05] Once after the birth of my child, I had postpartum preeclampsia and that was very scary, very dangerous. My blood pressure was through the roof. It took me many, months to recover from that because of, how much damage had been done to my body from these toxins. And then this past summer I had a really scary episode with my kidneys.

[00:15:28] I've had high blood pressure ever since that, and it's a matter now, the stuff that helped get the high blood pressure down then like for the postpartum preeclampsia, like in terms of working with my chiropractor, working with supplements, it's not the same because it wasn't the same cause of the high blood pressure.

[00:15:43] It's the same with depression. Very different things can click on depression for different people for different reasons. I think that different bodies. Might be more prone to depression. My body [00:16:00] is prone to, okay, we're gonna solve this particular problem by elevating blood pressure.

[00:16:05] We're gonna solve this other type of problem by depression. That's my body's go-to solution. It's not a good solution, but it's the best fail safe solution that it can come up with. I'm not a fan of the high blood pressure or the depression either. 'cause both of them can be life threatening.

[00:16:21] Autumn Carter: I was thinking it works that way with anxiety too. 

[00:16:24] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Anxiety is another one. And another mental health thing that I struggle with is symptoms related to PTSD. Particularly, anxiety shows up, but I also have a neurological condition where I just freeze. And my friends call it the fainting Goats syndrome because something will startle me, like something very loud will bang, like a metal something, and I'll have 10, 15 seconds before I know I'm [00:17:00] going down. And usually I can get down on the floor before I actually faint all over.

[00:17:05] If it's really bad sometimes it's just like I just need to lean on something. But my brain, like my whole body just turns off neurologically for anywhere 30 seconds to 30 minutes or longer. 

[00:17:19] Autumn Carter: Depending on the situation back in the day, you would've either survived really well or been dead, which whichever animal you're around.

[00:17:27] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: And I've read a lot of things about PTSD, I'm like, oh, you know what this is probably a, all this is a trauma response. And I know like the trauma that it came from, now that I've done a lot of inner work. But yeah, like different bodies have different ways of protecting yourself. All of these mechanisms are the body's way of try to protect you.

[00:17:55] Some of them are more effective than others, but they are protective [00:18:00] mechanisms that are like, okay, we need to put in module depression now. But it's interesting that you're talking about like our spirit is so much bigger than our bodies. Because lately I've been pretty even keel.

[00:18:19] I haven't had issues with depression for quite some time now. Really since I had spinal cord surgery for my condition. Like I woke up from that surgery, I was like, oh my gosh. I was in a ton of pain, but I was like. The pressure is gone like that, like impending doom that I had been feeling for years was just gone.

[00:18:42] I was like, wow, it's not there anymore. 

[00:18:47] Autumn Carter: But it does ask, still see a I was going to ask if you still see a chiropractor? 

[00:18:52] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Oh, yeah. Oh, I see 'em every once or twice a month. And then I have another chiropractor that I see every [00:19:00] couple of months. So yeah, they are a pivotal part of my care team.

[00:19:09] I, would not be nearly as stable now if I did not have their support, both of them because they both have very different approaches. But what I was gonna say before is I still have like moments where I'm like, wow, I feel really off. I feel really down. I just wanna curl up, like what's going on.

[00:19:33] And the first thing I'll check is I'll ask my body if my cerebral spinal fluid is flowing. Because if that's off, then I gotta do whatever I can, I'm able to do a lot of cranial sacral manipulation for myself just on my own to adjust things so that things start flowing again. But if that's fine, then I go into the ethereal zone and I [00:20:00] ask, okay, am I holding onto any energies that don't belong to me?

[00:20:03] And usually when I'm feeling that, like offness, it's because I'm holding onto something that doesn't belong to me. And I find that it lodges in one of three layers. It usually is just in my aura. And so if it's in my aura I use a reiki technique. And I blow a purple fog all the way through my aura, and it, just clears it and then suddenly I feel better.

[00:20:31] Sometimes it lodges as I, it feels like they're like, almost like little magnets that I've, held onto in my body. And I am state the intention. Like I choose to release these magnets back to the earth. And I just let them go. And then sometimes the, I call them black holes because they're really like deeply lodged in my body.

[00:20:54] They're, related to some really deep core wounds. And the first [00:21:00] one that I became aware of it was my chiropractor who brought my awareness to it. He's I've never seen anything like this before. So I was like, whoa. You've seen a lot of people, a lot of patients in your practice.

[00:21:15] And he's exactly my age. So like I know how long he been in practice and how many thousands of patients I've never seen anything like this before. It is like a black hole. It's like trying to suck everything into it. That's energy work that I can do, I can work on.

[00:21:25] And it took me, a couple weeks to figure out how to dislodge that and, give it back to wherever in the universe that energy needed to be and, heal it up. Now I can go in and just be like, and I've got various different imaging techniques that I guess kind of self, hypnosis would be the best way to describe it.

[00:21:49] Of like imaging, how different sorts of ways to remove the black hole and heal the wound. [00:22:00] Take the energy that doesn't belong to me off of me and restore and heal the energy that is all mine. And then once I clear that. Whichever of those three layers it's on. Then I ask, are there any breaches in my energetic integrity?

[00:22:18] And there's always a breach because how else did it come in? And then I imagine I have this troop of little tiny angels that guard my protective barrier, 

[00:22:29] Autumn Carter: energetic barrier high school are going Star Wars from the black hole. They're storm troopers for me, 

[00:22:34] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: They're like, they fly up and they spray gold paint and they heal up the breaches and put up, cloth or whatever it is that needs to be put up. And they restore that energetic integrity. And it's, when I first encountered the concept of the idea that there could be breaches in my energetic integrity in my aura was when I, my first [00:23:00] reiki training that I took and I was like, oh.

[00:23:03] I don't even know how I'm gonna begin to do that. It took me a long time to be able to sense what the boundaries of my aura were, and then how to understand when they were broken and how to restore their integrity. A lot of times this happens in sleep for me these days, I'll have a really intense dream and I'll be like, whoa, where did that come from?

[00:23:32] That was bonkers. And I'll be like, is there a breach in my energetic integrity? Yeah. Okay. Let's, seal that up before I go back to sleep because I, don't need to have an anxiety dream like that again tonight. Wow. 

[00:23:51] Autumn Carter: Welcome. 

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[00:25:00] Starting Your Human Design Journey

[00:25:00] Autumn Carter: Let's start with people who are at the very beginning of their journey, right? What would you even recommend? Or you can even put yourself back in time before you even understood this stuff, before you'd embraced any of the woo. Where do you even start? 

[00:25:20] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Why'd you end up going to human design looking backwards? I know how it worked for me, but I know that this is how it works for everyone. So I'll tell you how it worked for me and it would work this way approximately. Generally for about 70% of the population. 

[00:25:39] Human Design Types: Generators and Manifesting Generators

[00:25:39] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: And that's because 70% of the population is either a generator or a manifesting generator type in human design.

[00:25:45] And you can go to my website, I'll give you the website address. It's in the bio 

[00:25:49] Autumn Carter: too, don't worry guys. Oh, excellent. 

[00:25:51] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Okay. And there's like a human site chart generator on my website that you can generate your chart and [00:26:00] download a quick PDF and it'll tell you what your type is. So 70% of the population is a generator type, either a generator or manifesting.

[00:26:07] Those of us who are that, those two types? The universe, the world puts things in our pathway as we're walking down the street of life. And it's just like an offering like, here, would you like this? Like coming up to the party with a tray of hors. Would you like some of this? And you can say, Uhhuh or Uhuh, I'll pass.

[00:26:30] Thanks. No, I don't really want that. Or yeah, that actually looks delicious. And by stepping down the road of life and responding to the things that look delicious, that sound intriguing. And just saying yes to the right ones, to the ones that are delicious and intriguing. And if you have emotional authority, waiting out the big ones till you're sure that, like you, you've gone through a full wave that yeah, that's the [00:27:00] correct thing to do.

[00:27:01] I had been operating on that principle of not making spontaneous life changing decisions in the spur of a moment, like just waiting out. But yeah, just waiting for the universe to help. With whatever issue you want help with.

[00:27:17] And at the time, I wanted help with my health. I wanted help with being able to stay healthy and active and be able to raise my daughter because my daughter was she would've been six about when I first, when the universe presented me with the idea of doing reiki training which was my crash course introduction to all of this stuff, to like actually believing that this was actually true.

[00:27:56] I'd heard about chakras, I'd done yoga, but I [00:28:00] hadn't really like. Immersed myself into the woo until Reiki training just blew the, blew my mind. And just totally made me question everything that I thought was real about my existence. Which is always a good thing to have. Like I've had those moments before in my life.

[00:28:18] There were some moments in grad school when I was studying art history, when, I would just have whoa, eyes wide open suddenly the world is different because I understand this now. And that's what happened with reiki training is suddenly I just was like, oh, there's this whole aspect of reality of my existence that is putting the puzzle pieces together for me.

[00:28:43] And I didn't know they, those puzzle pieces were missing. But now I see. And so when I was first I was, it was actually one of my chiropractors was, during one of our adjustments, all three of us, my husband and my child and me were in the room. And he [00:29:00] was adjusting, I think he was adjusting my child.

[00:29:04] And he does a lot of energy work with the chiropractic adjustments. And he was watching me like energetically respond. One of my classic energetic responses is I burp when energy moves and I, know if I burp, that energy has moved. And he looks at my husband and he says she really needs to go to get Reiki training.

[00:29:28] And my husband's okay, that's fine. I think my husband, he just keeps just it. Blew past him because he knows he can't tell me or suggest to me to do anything. 'cause I'll immediately be like, ah, 

[00:29:43] Autumn Carter: don't tell me what to do. 

[00:29:44] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Don't tell me what to do. Exactly. That was like a beginning of our relationship.

[00:29:48] He knew better, like even going into the relationship, he knew better not do that because that wasn't gonna go well for him if he wanted to [00:30:00] be in a relationship with me, and he really did. But it's like I heard it and I was like, huh, I don't know anything about reiki. And so I just put it out in the universe if it's make it happen, like whatever's supposed to happen, make it happen.

[00:30:17] And eventually it did. Eventually the opportunity to get to do reiki training came up and did it. And it was like yes, this and more. And just followed. The breadcrumbs that the universe was laying out for me and picking the ones that, seemed right for me. Now that's for generators and manifesting generators.

[00:30:40] If you are a manifester, a projector, or a reflector, the universe doesn't do breadcrumbs like that for you to respond to in the same way. It's a slightly different response. But that was my journey. And that was my like, [00:31:00] I don't know. Did that answer your question? 

[00:31:02] Autumn Carter: Yeah, Let's go into the other ones, because I've had people talk about human design on my podcast, but they've never gone into this.

[00:31:10] Keep going. Okay. People are gonna be interested in asking questions. Keep going. Okay, so 

[00:31:19] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: who do I wanna start with? 

[00:31:20] Human Design Types: Reflectors

[00:31:35] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: I'll start with reflectors. Reflectors are only 1% of the population, but they're extremely special because reflectors. Reflectors are the people who tell us about the health of the community that they are part of.

[00:31:40] When the reflector is happy and joyful and healthy, that means that their community, their family, their whatever group they're part of is healthy. We need to put reflectors up on pedestals and they're [00:32:00] reflectors that I know, I honor what they say and how precious it is.

[00:32:05] But for them when they need to make a decision, when they need to figure out what's next or they. Come to a crossroads in the road of life or a major intersection of multiple roads. Their design is very counterintuitive to our fast-paced modern life because they actually need to wait at least one entire moon cycle because over an entire moon cycle, they will experience the full spectrum of different energies moving through their design through the movement of the moon and see each day with each transition of the moon, how do I feel about this?

[00:32:55] And just tease through how they feel through that process of [00:33:00] going through a month of thinking about it at least a month. Sometimes it takes more than one month. I talked very closely with my sister-in-law who's a reflector. About, how did she determine some really important decisions in her life?

[00:33:18] Deciding to go to med school was a really big deal. Like that's a really big deal for anyone. How did you decide to take this particular job once you got out of med school? Like, all these things. And she said that one of the things that also helped her was just talking to people that she knew she could trust who deeply loved her and had her best interest at heart.

[00:33:46] And just listening to them talk about their experiences, and then just listening to her own voice, talk through it with them and, being listened to that, that is [00:34:00] how reflectors come to the place where they can make a choice making decision. It's a much slower process than any of the other types.

[00:34:11] But when they follow it and get to it they just, the energy and the radiance around them the reflectors that I know

[00:34:26] There's a, just a sort of like a, deep inner peace that they radiate when they're in the right place with the right people. 

[00:34:36] Autumn Carter: I'm pretty sure that's my husband and his dad. His dad can take years to finally. Do something. My husband's faster because he married me and I can't stand that.

[00:34:49] There's times we joke around and it is yeah, there's no way I would've married your dad. Age difference, everything else, but just like how slow it takes him to make decisions, [00:35:00] but they are the right decision and he's the one that I go to if my husband's not available and I'll say, what do you think of this idea that I have?

[00:35:07] And he's such a deep thinker that he's able to give me what I need.

[00:35:14] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: So that's reflectors. For manifesters. 

[00:35:22] Human Design Types: Projectors

[00:35:27] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: I'm gonna go with projectors next 'cause manifesters are one of my most challenging. Projectors who I think projectors are 20 something percent of the population.

[00:35:35] It depends really on the projector. The key element is the universe doesn't put breadcrumbs down.

[00:35:43] On the, path of life, the universe throws people at you and the people. Want you to do things because they see that you have the solutions. And when they see that you have the solutions to their problems, they're like, [00:36:00] oh, please solve my problem for me. They have to solve their problem for themselves, but you do know the answer.

[00:36:06] You do know the solution as a projector. Now, the key element here is are they actually going to honor the solution that you provide them? Because you do know the answer to their problem. If they've come to you, if they've come across your road of life they do know what is or that you correctly ascertain that you know the answers to problems and you are a problem solver.

[00:36:32] But what they may not possess is the capacity to honor and respect what you tell them. To the point that they will actually follow through with what you tell them they need to do to solve their problem. And so for the projector, it's a question of, okay, I've met this person. They've, invited me to do something.

[00:36:56] They've invited me to bring my advice, they've invited me to [00:37:00] take some action. If I take that action, if I give them that advice, will I feel good about it in a week or three months or whatever, however long the time span is that it's gonna take for them to put into action this thing that I've told them, the solution to.

[00:37:18] Understanding Projectors in Human Design

[00:37:18] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Projectors are here to orchestrate the rest of us to be like the conductors of the orchestra and tell us all, like they have big picture visions of how humanity can be better. The most of us, like the 70% generator types. We don't always wanna hear, like I said, with my husband telling me what to do he realized that he knew what would be good for me, but I don't always wanna hear it.

[00:37:45] And so he keeps it to himself unless I invite him to. And that makes it so that when I ask him for suggestions or his advice or his wisdom, we both know it's coming from a place where [00:38:00] I'm gonna actually respect and honor what he sets. And from a lot of our marriage, that's not how it worked. He would offer.

[00:38:09] Perspectives and I would just discount them, or I wouldn't trust that he knew what he was talking about. 

[00:38:16] Personal Insights on Projector Wisdom

[00:38:18] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Since I've learned human design, it's, a much different scenario because I know because he's a projector, if I ask him for his wisdom, his input on this, I need to do it in a way that I really want to hear it.

[00:38:31] I want to follow what he sees that I, really want to be in line with what he sees and accept whatever it is that he sees because that's building the trust between us. I don't always want his perspective. I don't always want his input. I don't always want his projector wisdom because I have my own authority that I follow.

[00:38:56] But every once in a while I'll come up to a conundrum or we'll be [00:39:00] facing a parenting challenge or something else in our lives, and I'll be like, I don't know what. What do you see? What do you think? What are your ideas about this? Because I would love to hear a solution and I don't have one.

[00:39:16] So that's projectors. Projectors have to wait for invitations and then make sure the invitations are coming from people who will actually honor and respect their pearls of wisdom and not just throw their pearls of wisdom into the pigsty.

[00:39:35] Autumn Carter: Hi. 

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[00:42:43] Exploring Projected Elements in Human Design

[00:42:43] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: So the thing about projection is a lot of elements in the human design chart are actually projected. So even if you are not a projector.

[00:42:59] There [00:43:00] are many. I'm gonna turn off my cam for just a second and pull something off of my bulletin board. Hold on.

[00:43:08] Okay. So this is a kind of a blank human design chart that I've colored in with all sorts of notes and stuff which is more than I wanna get into today. But so all of these lines that connect each of these shapes, the shapes are called centers. The lines are called channels, and these little numbers at the end of each line are called gates.

[00:43:32] So there are centers, so shapes that are projected, if they are defined, if they're colored in on your human design chart that have projected energy if they're colored in. So if you have this. Either of these top. If you have this one defined, if you have this one colored in, then this one is also colored in.

[00:43:55] If you have these two or just this one colored in, [00:44:00] you have projected energy in your chart. There are channels that have projected energy attached to them, so even if you're not a projector and also the other element that we've talked about type I've talked about manifesting generators, projectors, and reflectors.

[00:44:17] I'll get to Manifesters in a minute. But there's also something called profile. And each human design chart has a set of profile lines. I'm not gonna get into how those are defined, but they'll be in your PDF report if you download from my website. And there are profile lines that are projected.

[00:44:38] I'm a two four profile. There are six profile lines. Each person has two of them. My profile is two four. The second line, the two. Is a projected line. So there are aspects of my energy that are projected energy, even though I'm not a projector. My husband is a projector with a three five profile.

[00:44:58] The fifth line is also [00:45:00] a projected line. So the second line and the fifth line are projected lines. So not only is he a projector, but he's a projector with a fifth line, which has a really intense projection field around it. So he's like projector squared. If we get into math terms he's got projector with a huge projection field.

[00:45:19] Autumn Carter: Projector with a projector belt. Like a black belt, 

[00:45:21] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Yeah, exactly. So even if you feel like, oh, I'm not a projector, but I feel like something that applies to me, it probably does because you probably do have projected elements in your chart and ways that this comes out. 

[00:45:33] Autumn Carter: And when I was getting my certificate, I had to be told several times, I need to manage my fixer.

[00:45:40] Quit trying to fix it for people. You trying to coach them through, help them come up with their own answers. So hard for me. 

[00:45:48] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: It is. It really is. Yeah. And I, literally struggled with that. Just a couple days ago I was doing a I have a group EFT [00:46:00] tapping group like membership, and I was working with the person in the hot seat and tapping through things and I could see exactly what she needed to do and needed to say, and I was like, Nope, this is not my job.

[00:46:24] Especially with the way that I do EFT tapping. It's all internal. Like it's, internal to the client. Like what? I use their words, I use their thoughts, I feed them back to them. If that's what she says, then that's what she needs to say, not what I can project. And see that she says, especially because she is a projector.

[00:46:44] This particular client that I was working with, I was like, I cannot be telling a projector what a projector needs to be doing. No. Oh my goodness. That sounds give some popcorn lemme watch this play out. And I held back. [00:47:00] I, did, step in at one point in time because something that she said about it's complicated.

[00:47:08] Something that she said just. My psychic senses were going like, like there was, it was talking about someone who, was no longer with us. And I asked like, all I we invite in all of our spirit guides before as we begin the session. And I asked the conglomeration of spirit guides, do I need to step in here?

[00:47:32] And they're like, yeah, you do. And so I told her, I was like, this person actually has not moved on yet. I know that I have the ability to sense when people are like still in this plane, even after they've died. And this person has not moved on yet. And I just I have to tell you that and then and also I [00:48:00] have to tell you that this person is really sad because they know that I have the ability to help them move on, but I am not the right person to help them do that.

[00:48:08] So it was just this weird information I can deliver, but advice about what you need to do. It's not my role unless somebody asks me that if they want to do that. So that actually brings me to manifesters. 

[00:48:28] Manifesters and Business Insights

[00:48:32] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Interestingly enough, manifesters, don't respond to anything.

[00:48:34] Manifesters just get downloads. They get inspiration and they follow it. They need to wait for that inspiration to hit. They need to make sure they are restored, that they are taking care of their wellness, that they are in a position where they are refueled and refreshed.

[00:48:53] Their energy is replenished regularly that they're taking care of themselves and then they just wait [00:49:00] for the inspiration to strike and don't burn out when it does. And I say this in part, but what, what brought me to that? Like how did you get there? From what we were just talking about. So I recently ran my business's human design chart.

[00:49:21] And my mind was absolutely blown because I was at a place where I had, and that's based 

[00:49:28] Autumn Carter: off of where you started it and the day and time you started it. 

[00:49:33] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: And the time that I just knew instinctively that it was born. When I filed the LLC paperwork that, was clear to me.

[00:49:43] That was when it started. And for different businesses it's different things. I was talking to one of my chiropractors about this and, she's when would be my business? Because she took over the business from another chiropractor, and it would be the time we opened the first day.

[00:49:57] I was like, yeah, that sounds right. Because it [00:50:00] couldn't be the time that the paperwork was filed, 'cause things were, still in transition. That was like their gestational period. So for each business it might be different. For me, it was when I filed the LLC paperwork.

[00:50:10] And I did this at a point in time where my business was just like burnt out. I was burnt out myself physically, but my business was just like, Nope, we are not doing anything else right now. We are done this. Is it. Stop. And I realized my business is a manifester and I had been running it like a manifesting generator.

[00:50:32] I'd been running it like it had its own internal energy to keep going, because I'm a manifesting generator, but it's not, it's a manifester. And my business, the point of my business is to get other people moving on things. And that's what manifesters do. They get divine inspiration and then they help spread it into the world and inspire other people to make things happen.

[00:50:54] And I was like, oh, that makes so much sense. That is what my business does and my business [00:51:00] is, I forget what the profile it's, a first line profile and I forget the other, I think it's a, I don't remember, I'm not gonna say it, but it's, it, one of the lines is first line profile and that really clearly it resonated with me 'cause it's still stuck with me, which is how I got to this place.

[00:51:16] First line profiles are here to deliver information, to delve to the deep bottoms of, all the knowledge that needs to be there and then give it to the people that need it. And as my acting within my business in this EFT tapping session where I had this knowledge that just dropped in and I was like, Ooh, I feel like I need to deal, like I need to, share this knowledge.

[00:51:47] I was sharing that knowledge about, about this person that, that hadn't moved on. Because that's what my business is supposed to do, is share knowledge, share [00:52:00] and, use that knowledge to help people move forward with whatever it is that, that the universe is trying to get them to move forward with.

[00:52:08] So that's what Manifestors have to do, is they just, they need to trust their divine inspiration and, let other people know when that inspiration hits. Because that's where manifesters get angry. Because when that divine inspiration hits, it's such a powerful hit, it's oh, I gotta go do this now.

[00:52:31] It needs to happen now. And if somebody stops you from doing it, it's oh, you've burst a balloon, and the balloon is angry. The balloon had fire in it. Don't get in the way of that balloon. But if you tell people, Hey, I've got a balloon. Don't pop my balloon. Let me go do this thing, I'll be back.

[00:52:57] It can it, as long as those [00:53:00] people respect that then they won't interrupt you. 

[00:53:03] Autumn Carter: Sounds like Brene Brown maybe that's her design. 

[00:53:08] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: I don't, that's a good question. I've never looked up her human design. 

[00:53:11] Autumn Carter: That's great. Oh, I love her books and just her talking and anyway because she's very much like that, but you won't see me much for the next two years because of this idea that I'm tracking down and then this amazing book comes out of it that helps all of us.

[00:53:27] So that's so interesting. And I've never considered that makes sense. Where I'm at in life right now, my design compared to that of my business. That's very, interesting 

[00:53:41] Balancing Personal and Business Energies

[00:53:41] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: because, 'cause our businesses aren't actually us in the same way that our children aren't us. And understanding our businesses design is really powerful.

[00:53:49] Autumn Carter: People have said that about their projects too. This is my baby, like my other baby or my book. And maybe it's not just your business, but the [00:54:00] project that you're working on too, especially if it feels like has its own energy.

[00:54:04] And I think people who are like, whoa, this is way too woo for me. Just take a second and like just take what parts fit for you right now knowing that this is gonna be here for you to come back to. But have you ever been so involved with something that it takes on an energy of its own? 

[00:54:23] I've been there. It's crazy. It can feel overwhelming. It's that ball's already started rolling and you're just trying to keep up. Have you ever had that? My husband and I have had that several times and we've had to tap in and tap out and okay, it's your turn now. Holy cow this is, going and it's going faster than we expected it to.

[00:54:45] And it was very much one of those we weren't even manifesting this. This just came upon us. And yeah, it was the, what I'm talking about is I always wanted four kids. We [00:55:00] had fertility issues, thought we were done with two, I had postpartum depression, miscarriage, like all those things between the first two.

[00:55:09] And my daughter is an amazing child now. Love her. She's a mini me. And it's been very healing for me to see her and see the things that it's oh, okay, trauma broke, that, that's what I would naturally have. Or certain things where I thought. It was because of trauma that I'm this way. I was like, no, I actually went naturally that way tho.

[00:55:32] Those types of things. Anyway, she is just so pure and I feel like she's so pure because of my childhood. Anyway, she screamed. She did not sleep that same week that I'm like, Hey, I mean we're done having kids. Like I can't handle another miscarriage new, just emotionally, mentally.

[00:55:53] Nope. Physically I could, but like every other way. No, that same week [00:56:00] surprise my third and it was that, this house is too small for all of us now and it was an older house where we could only use half of it during whatever season we're in because it was drafty no matter what we did to fix this house and make it not drafty.

[00:56:16] It was, anyway, it was great for that time in our life. And this was before COVID, thankfully, I don't know that we could afford our house now. And it was okay, we're pregnant now we need to move. And everything just super fast fell into place and everything. And we knew where we were going to be going to church, our pediatrician's office, preschool, not the house, and our house was under contract.

[00:56:44] Like I, it was obvious this was the area we were going to live in, but where's the house? Like, all of those things it just, we had to step outta the way so many times because we were tripping it up, but it was very much one of those, and it was absolutely like that [00:57:00] for me, starting school, going back to school.

[00:57:03] It has been like that in my business and there are some areas of friction within it where I know I am in the way. So that makes sense that it's my energy versus energy in my business. I love that. And I'm just now looking at the time, and I would say sorry to those of you who are listening, but this was amazing.

[00:57:24] And this is the first time someone has been on to talk about human design and it feels tangible. So yay. And you're welcome for listening. How's that? Instead of, sorry. Thank you. You touched on so many different things. It's obvious the things that you offer from what you said. Yay. And thank you. And yeah, I'm gonna be reaching out to you behind the scenes about certain things for me.

[00:57:50] For those who

[00:57:56] Embracing the Woo and Overcoming Resistance

[00:57:56] Autumn Carter: aren't fully ready to embrace the Woo yet [00:58:00] what do you have to say to them? 

[00:58:04] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: I think you could just take it in little bite-sized portions. What fits for you? And what works for you. If it is something that you're maybe interested in, maybe just learning a little bit about I have a couple of free reports on my website. I've got one about your child's or your inner child's superpowers. And one about how to, make decisions based on your human design. And both of those can just be like little tiny steps to tipping your toe into and, see if it resonates.

[00:58:46] If what comes out of that resonates then maybe dip a little more of your foot in or not. A lot of times with human design it's like either people are like, oh my gosh. I am in [00:59:00] like, yes, this makes total sense. And some people are like my brothers, when I tell them about their design, they're like I don't, yeah.

[00:59:12] So what? They're not really, they're like that. No, that really doesn't resonate. That's not at all me. Then it's not you and it's not supposed to be what you're doing. If you're not into the woo, then there's two things. One, maybe you're not supposed to be into the woo, and that's okay.

[00:59:38] There's nothing wrong with you. Like you do you and you do you really well, so you don't need to be in the woo. Or the other option is there's some sort of energetic resistance in you towards it. And I know that I've had that energetic resistance. 

[00:59:58] Autumn Carter: You just talked 

[00:59:59] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: about it.

[00:59:59] [01:00:00] Yeah. And if you think that maybe there might be something there, but every time you try to approach it, like your mind goes blank or you feel this like deep bodily, like no. Ask the universe, can you help me with this resistance and see what happens? Don't push it, don't get in your way. Don't try to fix it.

[01:00:27] Just say whatever. Higher power is, the higher power that you connect to. Or if you don't connect to a higher power, like just, ask your higher self. I mean it like if you have a, sense of higher self, can you help me figure out what's going on with this resistance? Because that's the thing about resistance.

[01:00:51] Resistance is a protective mechanism. It protects us from whatever it is that our body's brains or whatever [01:01:00] don't, it doesn't think it's safe for us to be around. And it may or may not be accurate that it's safe or not. So the universe will put in your pathway something to help you with that resistance if you ask for it.

[01:01:19] There's all sorts of different texts, like all sorts of different spiritual guidance ask and you'll receive is the Christian one. Ask and you'll receive, ask the universe, ask God, ask Christ. Ask whoever you believe in for what it is that like for help with this resistance. And it, the help will show up.

[01:01:45] Not in the way you might expect might be a lot. It might be sending you to the emergency room with, severe kidney problems, which is what happened to me this summer. Thanks universe. I really appreciated that [01:02:00] one. But it will show up 

[01:02:03] Autumn Carter: So how does this work for you? 

[01:02:06] Daily Practices for Wellness and Balance

[01:02:09] Autumn Carter: Are you somebody who meditates? How do you start to have your own balance and your own, knowing your path.

[01:02:13] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Gotcha. How to answer that question. I think it's changed over the course of my life. And I think in a lot of ways I've just gotten my own way. Like we interfering was just making it harder. I think that I've, overthought a lot of things that didn't need to be overthought and the universe just had it all planned out for me in the first place.

[01:02:49] And I just needed to step into it. So how do I get to this place now? [01:03:00] A variety of different ways. I think the most important way is by just taking care of myself and doing what my body needs and wants me to do. Doing yoga and stretching every night and. And that usually includes some meditation at the end.

[01:03:23] For me it's like I'm very part of my human design is very intensely connected to my body. And so paying very close attention to what it is that I'm eating and then that, that whatever I am eating at this exact moment is what my body wants me to eat. And being very intentional about food that, that's a big part of it.

[01:03:52] Because when I eat the food that my body wants, I feel better. I can focus, I can concentrate, taking a nap when my body says, [01:04:00] Hey, I'm tired. Like just very basic wellness kind of things. That's, really the first step. I don't meditate unless. I am in a yoga class usually, 

[01:04:17] Autumn Carter: or on a yoga retreat.

[01:04:19] I do a yearly yoga retreat. I do mine when I'm struggling to get outta bed in the morning. But Is that meditation or is that falling back to sleep? And then if I'm stuck in my massage chair that's right next to my bed that post car accident massage her's. Awesome. And yeah, because I'm already stuck there.

[01:04:37] It's so easy to meditate and I don't like lose track as much of I, it like brings me back 'cause it's touching my body. It's oh, I zoned out, I'm back into meditation. Like it helps with my A DHD brain. And then yoga. Absolutely. That's when I do it too. But it's like a mini meditation.

[01:04:57] However long they, they happen to [01:05:00] gimme a Shavasana. 

[01:05:01] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: Yeah. And sometimes when I'm taking walks that's when I meditate. A lot of times I feel like when I do self reiki, which I do self reiki like multiple times a day, whenever something hurts or aches or just feels stuck, I do self reiki.

[01:05:22] I guess that's a type of meditation too, so 

[01:05:26] Autumn Carter: That's true. I love going to get a massage with people who all say, know Ricky. 

[01:05:34] Yeah. 

[01:05:35] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: It's so powerful. It's my go-to for, it's my first line of anything. When anything shows up, when anything feels off, I start with reiki. I start with going through what, does my spirit need at this moment?[01:06:00] 

[01:06:00] Autumn Carter: Love that. Okay. Tell us where to find you. 

[01:06:04] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: So my website is www.soulstarattunement.com. And I am sometimes on Instagram. I am sometimes on LinkedIn. I don't wanna say that I have not been consistent on any social media platform recently, so go to her website.

[01:06:23] I do try to be pretty consistent about sending out emails, whether that's things that I'm selling or just general, like updates, Hey, this is what's going on, this is what I've been thinking about lately. It just random things that I send out. And it varies because I'm a manifesting generator. I'm all over the place and sometimes 

[01:06:45] Autumn Carter: I'm doing that and sometimes I'm doing this.

[01:06:47] Oh yeah, her newsletters are great. I highly recommend 'em. 

[01:06:50] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: So sign up for my newsletter or run your chart on my site and I'll sign you up for the newsletter too. 

[01:06:55] Autumn Carter: Yeah, do that. Go that route. Thank you so much for being [01:07:00] on.

[01:07:00] It was actually really fun. I had questions about human design that I hadn't fully had answered, and I, did in several ways for my somatics coach, but it helped me. There were things that I absolutely did not know that were in here, but I know for those who are only listening to my podcast that none of the other ones talked about that in detail.

[01:07:25] And, this was absolutely needed to complete that loop of human design. What is it? Why does it matter? And how does it relate to different personalities that are out there in the world? And because this is my human design. Why am I not connecting with this person that I'm close to in these certain areas?

[01:07:45] So it really helps to see both sides of it. And I love that you made it personal by talking about your husband too and how he can see things, but you also need to learn for yourself. [01:08:00] That is how you really grasp things. And there are people like that have to go through The way I, the wording that I grew up with is the school of hard knocks.

[01:08:09] They have to try themselves because then it really clicks when they either figure it out themselves or somebody says, okay, you're asking me, so I'm going to give you this advice. Try this. And it, and you just see like the light bulb go on and they're just willing. It's like the race cars.

[01:08:27] I loved race car driving when I was a kid. Don't ask me why. I don't know. But when they go into that pit stop and they're ready to go right away again. It's like that for them. So I love that you brought that connection of, because you have this gift doesn't mean that you're gonna go trying to make everyone the same as you.

[01:08:47] So thank you for that wisdom. 

[01:08:49] Marie Gasper-Hulvat: You are welcome. Thank you. Thank you so much. This is a really fun conversation. 

[01:08:54] Autumn Carter: Oh, it so was. Thank you.

[01:08:58] Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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